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From: (Not Displayed) Received: 12:50 pm on Nov. 7, 2007 Return to Inbox
Subject: sucide?
i have been thinking a lot about the issues of heaven and hell. where is my sister who cmmited sucide is , I wonder almost every day  i would love to think I would see her again some day but I know if she isn't where I want her to be I never will and that upsets me big time.  i want to address it with my youth pastor but i'm not sure how., what I really want is to sit down with my youth pastor brain, his wife kea , and jeff and nicole. that way I could get all of their opions at once.  that would be extremely selfish and most likely wrong on my part.  haven't really talked to any of them and it bothers me. they don't know im struggling not only with myself but with God as well.

i'm pushing him away along with everyone else. i'm so off track I don't know how to get back on.  i hate that I can't shake this. I was reading something and it said that god has a plan which I totally believe ,m but could it be in his plan for andree to do what she did>? meaning there is a way she could be in heaven. not that I would be, I sin way to much lastly , and I don't feel I deserve his or anyone's forgiveness right now. maybe some day but not today. we all have our purpose and our fate and how , when and where we gonna die, could it be that Andree's way was by killing herself? not that what she did wasn't wrong, but if it was God's plan for her to do so then maybe she is with him?
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Like iwashere85 said, the slow replies are probably due to the title - actually, there are two votes to delete this so I'd strongly suggest not titling any future eHelps like this again. It would be terrible if it were deleted even though it is a perfectly valid eHelp.

I'm going to tackle this point by point, but forgive me if I don't really know what to say at times. Religion is not something I'm strong on.

First off, we cannot and will not ever be able to find out what happens 'afterwards'. I am so sorry to hear about your sister - if it helps, I had an aunt who was probably the most charitable, kind person on earth who committed suicide, and who knows where she is now? - but just remember that while you still remember her, she is not truly gone. It will be hard, and there is no shame in your questions. Grieve for now, but there will be a time when you must stop grieving her death and move on to celebrate her life. I'm not sure what to say regarding where she could be. Only God knows. For now, just pray for her. I'm being delicate about this, seeing as religion will never be something I can counsel about. However, I don't see why you can't address our pastor about it. I assure you, it is not selfish at all! You are perfectly justified in talking about it. You say you are struggling with God - well, what better way to puzzle things out than with the leader of your church? We are often tested and trialled in life, and sometimes you just need help and guidance, no matter how selfish you may be feeling.

As I said before, religion is not a strong point of mine. What I say next is merely my own take on things - who knows what's correct and what's not?

We all go through periods of doubt and denial. I'm not going to push you in any direction - where you go, religion wise, is entirely your choice - but just remember that God will always welcome you back. There is no need to feel like your problems are too trivial to ask for help. God hears even the smallest voice.

Of course God has a plan, but in my opinion, it is not unchangeable. Remember that God has no power over freewill and your sister chose her path. Also remember that God alone judges accordingly - I don't believe that just because someone chose the path of suicide, it means that they are automatically condemned. So was Andree's suicide part of a plan? I don't know, you don't know, no one knows. But comfort yourself with the knowledge that God is fair and merciful - the most you can do is pray for her salvation and honour the life she lived, rather than despair over her death.

Again, no Support Leader is a trained professional and you should DEFINITELY consider my/anyone else's advice before taking it, especially on a contentious topic like religion. I stress again that this is what I've been taught and what I think. If it doesn't suit you then there is absolutely no need for you to listen to anything I've said. Religion is different for everyone - I am also a Catholic and you are evidently a protestant, so there will be differences. However, if you do want to continue talking then feel free to PM me and I will try to help.

I'm sorry for your loss,

- Scui

Posted at 5:39 am on Nov. 11, 2007

Hello:
  I am so sorry that it took a while for any support leader to reply. They probably have not replied because the title of this eHelp was "suicide" and we are not supposed to give advice to people who are considering  committing suicide. So, in case you were wondering, that is the reason it has taken so long for a reply. I, though, have read it and understood it is not about committing suicide.

First off, I am so sorry about your sister. This is going to be one of the hardest times of your life, and I am sure you already understand that. I can tell you that there is going to be a point where you need to move on. I know how hard this is for you, but mourning of her is going to make it worth. It is fine to remember her, but there always comes that time.

If you want to talk to your paster, go ahead and do so. Your paster should be able to help you get through what is happening with you right now, and possibly make you feel better.

I am very sorry I could not help you more, but God subjects are not exactly my best topics. If you want to continue talking or if you have any questions, please message me. I would have no problem talking with you. Thank you for feeling comfortable telling us your problem. Good luck and feel better. Remember that Support Leaderis are not trained professionals, and you should consider their advice before taking it.

-iwashere85

Posted at 1:45 pm on Nov. 7, 2007

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