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Intelligent Life in space?
Do you believe?
Replies: 44Last Post Jan. 13, 2007 7:05am by KathyN
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Definitely.

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Well, first off, what's your definition of life? For me, life is a manifestation of energy, and many people assume things not to be alive because they don't have the right perspective. I believe everything is alive, although maybe not at the same timeframe we live in.

Second off, I believe we live in an infinite universe. That we may not be able to detect stars or objects after a certain range doesn't mean that the Universe "ends."

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I don't.

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Quote: from Meep123 at 2:41 pm on Jan. 9, 2007

Quote: from bilzey1992 at 2:41 pm on Jan. 9, 2007

Its on jupiters moon europa there is a thick sheet of ice with water underneath where they think there could be life

Why are you thinking only our solar system? I am not talking about our solar system, or even our galaxy.


yes but you said you dont think in our solar system so i proved you wrong  

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well think about it i mean there are probally like a few billion starts or way more and we cant be the only lucky ones out there. i mean were not that luck there must be someone else out there

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Quote: from bilzey1992 at 2:45 pm on Jan. 9, 2007

Quote: from Meep123 at 2:41 pm on Jan. 9, 2007

Quote: from bilzey1992 at 2:41 pm on Jan. 9, 2007

Its on jupiters moon europa there is a thick sheet of ice with water underneath where they think there could be life
 

 Why are you thinking only our solar system? I am not talking about our solar system, or even our galaxy.


yes but you said you dont think in our solar system so i proved you wrong  


Show me some intelligent life in our solar system and I will pay you.

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For me it's a certainty - the universe is simply too large for there not to be life 'out there'. Echoing bilzey I could take a pretty good guess that there would be 'life' under Europa's ice shell, and while it may be nothing more than bacteria, wouldnt that completely change how we think of ourselves as a race? Far beyond our solar system, but even still within our own galaxy, there are plenty of places that could support life - people don't realise how robust life is. Intelligent life? Definite possibility, I would say, within our galaxy. The question is how do you define intelligent? Self-awareness? Then surely animals would be classed as intelligent life (which would be a massive breakthrough anyway) If it's 'proper' intelligent life you're looking for, it will exist out there someplace. It is highly unlikely it would look anything like us, or even be anthropomorphous for that matter - but again, people don't realise just how big the universe is - infinite (well, almost, if you believe in the theory of multiple universes)
It's simply too big for there not to be intelligent life out there somewhere.

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The music is funny in that video.  Basically it shows one of Hubble's pictures, the ultra deep field which is a snapshot of an empty patch of sky the size of a grain of sand held at an arm's length.  The photo contains 10,000 galaxies and each galaxy contains up to a trillion stars.  Most of those stars have planets.  That's the number of letters in 800,000 500 page novels with 500 words on each page.  That's 8,000,000,000 500 page books for just that picture which is of only an empty patch of sky the size of a grain of sand held at an arm's length.  Keep that number, 8 billion, in mind.

Grab a grain of sand, go outside and hold it in front of the sky.  How many grains can fit in that sky?  Then remember that you can't see the whole sky.  What about the sky on the other side of the world?  The Hubble may not have seen all the galaxies in that patch of sky.  It probably didn't.  There's probably a lot more than 8 billion books of stars (in letters) per grain of sand.  Our solar system has 8 planets and 162 moons.  If one third of the stars in that photo have that many planets, that's 56 quadrillion 667 trillion planets--the letters in 45 billion books.


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It is not a matter of belief anymore, it is a matter of careing that they are.  We have scientific evidence that proves they exist, they have been here, and have been doing certain experiments with humans that remain a mystery as to their purpose. Once again, all proven by scientific evidence.  

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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 5:43 pm on Jan. 9, 2007

Well, first off, what's your definition of life? For me, life is a manifestation of energy, and many people assume things not to be alive because they don't have the right perspective. I believe everything is alive, although maybe not at the same timeframe we live in.

You have redefined life to the point of meaninglessness. A rock is a timeshifted energy manifestation?


Second off, I believe we live in an infinite universe.

The scientific community doesn't, though, because that's nonsensical.

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What is intelligence?
What is life?

Some would say that Some Computer programs are approaching human intelligence, at least in some areas.



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Whatever probability was surmounted to create intelligent life on Earth could most likely be replicated given the massive sample-size of planets in the universe.

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that just seems like a thesaurus answer to me...

yes, there is intelligent life in space.
it is naive to think otherwise. its also naive to believe that by "intelligent life" you mean "human-like" because our way of development could be [and most likely is] vastly different than other possible lifeforms.

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Now? Possibly. In the past 15 billion years?

Without a doubt.

We know that carbon based lifeforms can come in a variety of shapes, sizes, and enviroments. We also know that silicon can act in much the same way of providing a structure for bonding that life requires. Given that such atoms exist in huge quantities everywhere, it seems likely that life arouse outside of our solar system. Given the time span of 15 billion years, invariably some of them made it to intelligence.

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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 1:10 pm on Jan. 10, 2007

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 5:43 pm on Jan. 9, 2007

Well, first off, what's your definition of life? For me, life is a manifestation of energy, and many people assume things not to be alive because they don't have the right perspective. I believe everything is alive, although maybe not at the same timeframe we live in.

You have redefined life to the point of meaninglessness. A rock is a timeshifted energy manifestation?


You have stated the obvious. My point in saying that is to point out that the definition of life may not necessarily be universal.

Let go of the singular example of a rock being an energy manifestation - which you clearly use to trivialize my beliefs. Everything is just a manifestation of energy which goes through changes over "time". It's all a matter of scale, perspective, or whatever you want to call it.




Second off, I believe we live in an infinite universe.

The scientific community doesn't, though, because that's nonsensical.


The original question has nothing to do with the "scientific community" - whatever that vague and overused phrase actually means. The question revolves around what I believe. Without derailing myself, your beloved "scientific community" isn't in collective agreement over much of anything - especially whether or not the universe is finite or infinite, collapsing or expanding, etc., so don't go jumping to conclusions and hiding behind a mass in order to discredit someone else's beliefs.

Final Point, Horsey: in what way is my belief that the universe is infinite, without end or beginning "nonsensical"? Ever hear of chaos theory, pal?

You need to expand your own mind and stop trying to narrow the minds of others.

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