Post edited at 6:15 am on Dec. 15, 2006 by MarioMan9112

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You must learn to know me by another name.

The long term solution is not to throw more "mod time" at it, given that a huge amount of time is invested by mods as it is.

And we get pissed off by people saying "camp in front of your computer - screw your jobs and your lives - modding livewire is your job" as well somehow

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We're pushing for improvements that make our time more efficient and that of trolls and spammers less efficient.

The long term solution is not to throw more "mod time" at it, given that a huge amount of time is invested by mods as it is.

And we get pissed off by people saying "camp in front of your computer - screw your jobs and your lives - modding livewire is your job" as well somehow

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Well we probably need more mods! I mean, that would make sense

Also, about seeing David online, he is usually on a lot. Right now he is doing finials so of course he is going to put more time into those.

As for the spam, we try to keep it under control and we are trying to find new ways of dealing with it. We can't guarantee 3 mods will be on at a time because our schedules change. I used to be on late at night every day, now I am on in the morning more. We have lives to work around and many of us are working full time or in full time school with part time jobs.

So while we want to do our best, and meet all your needs, and all your rants, sometimes we have to go do real life things. Like laundry, work, pay bills and eat.

Oh, and we do have a Mod bot. It takes care of approving and inactivating Livewire links.

Post edited at 6:21 am on Dec. 15, 2006 by Artistic Drain

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If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: "That is not what I meant at all. That is not it, at all."

You are just stating what you think they don't do.

They have a life, and don't sit on the computer all day. The mods also work as a team, therefore it takes longer to pass bans etc.

To quote from Eddie:

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Here is how I see it:

The Moderators are not lazy. While I will say that some Moderators aren't pulling their weight in Moderating the Forums, this is certainly no easy task as there is a lot to do when it comes to Moderating. Let's take a look at some facts:

   * To date (at the time of this post) there have been 362,617 topics created and 6,018,574 replies. That roughly averages out to 152.84 topics and 2,537 replies that are created every single day.
   * Between the Teen, College and Tech Forums there are 65 sub-forums that need to be moderated. Naturally the Teen Forum is the busiest with the most members, topic and replies every day.
   * There are currently 89,096 members on LiveWire and only 29 Moderators, which is a ratio of 3,072 members for each Moderator (3072:1). While a lot of those members are not active, there have been nearly 2,000 members active today alone.

The Moderators of LiveWire have personal lives and do not spend their time on LiveWire 24/7. They do it on a volunteer basis and do not get paid for their time in any way, shape or form. They are restricted in some areas of their job because it takes a quorum of Moderators to conduct some actions, such as banning a member. Why is that? Because they are a team, they work as a team, they discuss things as a team and they decide on actions as a team. If there is a troll online spamming the forums with useless crap, racism, advertisements or otherwise violating the Forums, it takes five Moderators to vote on whether to ban that member or not. This is not also something that they have a say on, as it was David's idea to have it at five.

There are however, things you can do to help the Moderators do their job:

   * If you see a post that is in violation of the LiveWire Guidelines, send in a report that will allow the Moderators to view that post and take the appropriate action. The Moderators rely on your eyes as well in helping to keep the Forums user friendly for everyone to use as they cannot view every single reply that is posted, especially when there are trolls spamming at an alarming rate.
   * If you feel a Moderator is not doing their job properly and you can justify your claim with actual proof, send a Moderator Error Report or send a PM to David and let him deal with the situation. He too is a busy person and cannot baby-sit the Moderators, as he has hand selected them based on their application and feels that they are competent enough to do their job and do it well.
   * If you see a member constantly posting racist remarks or spamming the forums with crap, send them a PM and politely ask them to stop what they are doing because they are ruining the Forums for everyone else.
   * Stop posting degrading remarks yourself. This thread was created to pick on the Moderators and there were several replies where people offered no advice and often insulted one another, including the thread starter being guilty of this:

     Quote: from Another Chance at 8:28 pm on Dec. 11, 2006

         YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU DUMB FUCK!

   * If you want to clean up the Forums, stop posting stupid crap like that. People only say things like that because they can hide behind their monitor and know that nobody can do anything about it. There are many more polite ways that person could have phrased his comments, but he decided to take the rude route.

In sumnation, stop blaming the Moderators as they do what they can, with the tools that they have in the time that they have. Of the 29 Moderators, five (5) of them are new, which means they can only Moderate certain Forums and if they're assigned to a Forum in the College Forums and one in the Tech Forums, and someone is spamming the Teen Sexuality Forum while they're the only Moderator online, they can't do anything about it, in regards to editing or deleting posts. They can only PM the member and ask them to stop or wait patiently for a Senior Moderator to come online and assist them with the situation.

You may feel that the Moderators run the site, but they're not the only ones. The members run it as well, with the topics and replies that they create. They are the ones who choose to post what they do and create the useless things that they do. I'm sick of all the racist comments, derogatory comments as well as a lot of you are, but I'm also sick of people blaming the Moderators for not doing their job.

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I'm not saying camp in front of your computer. But the size of the MOD team compared to the size of this site is pathetic.

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I agree!

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Quote: from MarioMan9112 at 9:18 am on Dec. 15, 2006

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I'm not saying camp in front of your computer. But the size of the MOD team compared to the size of this site is pathetic.

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I agree!

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But not everyone that applies for moderator is acceptable. Also, some of those accounts, in fact many are inactive. So you can't go by the number of the members at the top of this page.

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From a distance you look like my friend,

even though we are at war.