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So why does art exist again?
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Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:43 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?
 

  Stop being stupid. I didn't say that. I almost never watch TV.


 

  
 You said we should spend our time, instead of creating art, finding ways to make bigger TVs.  

 


It is for the technology. TV provides a very important way to transmit news and other important information like that. They serve a far more important purpose than that shit called art.


You know, they call psychology an art too. And technology? What is it but an art of precision? You realize that art is not limited to inventions, movies, books, clothing, the TV itself?

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Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:50 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 1:46 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Why?  

  Yeah, you could argue that 'we' should be spending time bettering the human race, but surely there are enough of us to allow for some to show some expression in something they have a passion for? I watched a film once called 'Equilibrium'. In the film, personal belongings were banned, as i recall, so were emotions and forms of self expression. As shown in the film, and as logic should dictate, people aren't going to want to live their lives in a sedate, often futile fashion. 'Rebels' will occur, and wars, etc. Back where we started, just with a new face.


 

   
 AHHH GOODDDDD Equilibrium....Must you use shitty films, which got horrible reviews may I add, to prove your point.  
 EEEEEWWWWW  
   
 You should not be an intellectual. Fucking hell are you serious?


Are you serious? What difference do the reviews make? I simply referenced a film which highlighted a similar issue to the one you raised.  

Either way, if you can present me with an argument that discounts my suggested ideas, then shoot.


That piece of FICTION is disgusting. You have no class.
The basis for your suggested ideas is a piece of shit with no real basis. DISCREDITED.

Let us continue. I am not suggesting that we ban everything. I am not suggesting that we take pills to remove emotion. I am merely questioning the usefulness of art and the "artsy" emo losers who make it.

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Quote: from maceyface at 5:52 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:47 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:45 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:43 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from maceyface at 5:42 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

So art is a waste of time, but watching countless hours of "better" TV isn't?
   

   Stop being stupid. I didn't say that. I almost never watch TV.


 

     
  You said we should spend our time, instead of creating art, finding ways to make bigger TVs.  

 


 

 It is for the technology. TV provides a very important way to transmit news and other important information like that. They serve a far more important purpose than that shit called art.


You know, they call psychology an art too. And technology? What is it but an art of precision? You realize that art is not limited to inventions, movies, books, clothing, the TV itself?


stop being a fag and over apply the definiton. so stop being a semantics fag will you?

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Quote: from bloody valentine at 5:51 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

because faster computers are just something that distracts you more from real life. the end, because you just want to argue with everyone, and i don't want to argue with you. also, weed is not that bad for you if done in moderation. have you even tried it? don't knock something till you try it, my friend.

Are you assuming that Ive never tried weed...?

Oh stop being full of stupid bullshit with real life and what not. I don't need your red pill blue pill nonsense. They are both reality.

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Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:54 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

stop being a fag and over apply the definiton. so stop being a semantics fag will you?

You're clearly avoiding my point, so I'll take that as a win. Score 1 for macey, 0 for idiot.

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Quote: from Another Idiot at 1:53 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:50 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 1:46 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:44 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Why?    

   Yeah, you could argue that 'we' should be spending time bettering the human race, but surely there are enough of us to allow for some to show some expression in something they have a passion for? I watched a film once called 'Equilibrium'. In the film, personal belongings were banned, as i recall, so were emotions and forms of self expression. As shown in the film, and as logic should dictate, people aren't going to want to live their lives in a sedate, often futile fashion. 'Rebels' will occur, and wars, etc. Back where we started, just with a new face.


 

     
  AHHH GOODDDDD Equilibrium....Must you use shitty films, which got horrible reviews may I add, to prove your point.  
  EEEEEWWWWW  
     
  You should not be an intellectual. Fucking hell are you serious?


 

 Are you serious? What difference do the reviews make? I simply referenced a film which highlighted a similar issue to the one you raised.  

 Either way, if you can present me with an argument that discounts my suggested ideas, then shoot.


That piece of FICTION is disgusting. You have no class.
The basis for your suggested ideas is a piece of shit with no real basis. DISCREDITED.

Let us continue. I am not suggesting that we ban everything. I am not suggesting that we take pills to remove emotion. I am merely questioning the usefulness of art and the "artsy" emo losers who make it.


Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

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Quote: from maceyface at 5:56 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 5:54 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

stop being a fag and over apply the definiton. so stop being a semantics fag will you?

You're clearly avoiding my point, so I'll take that as a win. Score 1 for macey, 0 for idiot.



What point?

Quote: from maceyface at 5:56 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


blah blah blah blah


art is teh everything!!!111onecos0etcetceleven
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Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?

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Quote: from Another Idiot at 8:55 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from bloody valentine at 5:51 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

because faster computers are just something that distracts you more from real life. the end, because you just want to argue with everyone, and i don't want to argue with you. also, weed is not that bad for you if done in moderation. have you even tried it? don't knock something till you try it, my friend.

Are you assuming that Ive never tried weed...?

Oh stop being full of stupid bullshit with real life and what not. I don't need your red pill blue pill nonsense. They are both reality.



hahaha, you're really funny. if you think the computer is reality, you're a really sad person. and now i am signing off because none of your arguments are valid. you are not worth my time. you are therefor rendered a joke and all others posting on this topic should leave, boycotting the moronic topicsjavascript and arguments of the world. now THAT is what i call progress.

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Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007


 Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.

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Quote: from bloody valentine at 6:01 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 8:55 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from bloody valentine at 5:51 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

because faster computers are just something that distracts you more from real life. the end, because you just want to argue with everyone, and i don't want to argue with you. also, weed is not that bad for you if done in moderation. have you even tried it? don't knock something till you try it, my friend.
 

 Are you assuming that Ive never tried weed...?  

 Oh stop being full of stupid bullshit with real life and what not. I don't need your red pill blue pill nonsense. They are both reality.



hahaha, you're really funny. if you think the computer is reality, you're a really sad person. and now i am signing off because none of your arguments are valid. you are not worth my time. you are therefor rendered a joke and all others posting on this topic should leave, boycotting the moronic topicsjavascript and arguments of the world. now THAT is what i call progress.


nope computers don't exist
nor is it even conceivable that synthetic reality is better than reality (OMG weed and other drugs)


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Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

 
  Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

 

 and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.

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Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:03 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

 
   Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

 

  and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


 

 No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.


But surely someone who passed a test as an intellectual could piece together a better reasoning for such an attack? I mean, given that you had the grapes to question my capacity as an intellectual, I would expect some evidence of your intelligence. Sadly however, I've not been able to find much.

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if people hated that much then nobody would talk to me."[


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Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:06 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:03 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

   
    Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

   

   and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


   

  No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


 

 This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.


 

But surely someone who passed a test as an intellectual could piece together a better reasoning for such an attack? I mean, given that you had the grapes to question my capacity as an intellectual, I would expect some evidence of your intelligence. Sadly however, I've not been able to find much.


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Post edited at 6:09 pm on Mar. 7, 2007 by Another Idiot

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Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:08 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:06 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:03 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 6:02 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 2:00 am on Mar. 8, 2007

Quote: from dimebagmatt at 5:57 pm on Mar. 7, 2007

   
    Logic seems like a good basic for an idea, in my thinking at least. Implement a rule, and people will break it. Then we'll need to produce bigger bombs to fit with your  suggestion. Of course, we could just not bother doing anything about art as a whole, and keep the current variety of terrorism we all know and love?

   

   and I suggested creating a rule banning art in my first post... yes?


   

  No you did not, however, if you want to ban something you'll need a rule of some kind to do so.


 

 This is more of an attack on artistic people than anything else if you haven't noticed...how they are stupid useless emo fags who are a drain on society.


 

But surely someone who passed a test as an intellectual could piece together a better reasoning for such an attack? I mean, given that you had the grapes to question my capacity as an intellectual, I would expect some evidence of your intelligence. Sadly however, I've not been able to find much.


http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-boitas-support-a.html" target="_top">http://http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-boitas-support-a.html  http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yiseyy-support-a.html" target="_top">http://http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yiseyy-support-a.html


Oh I see! It's ok to post shit on the intellectual forum because, well, why?

If I was being pedantic, I'd have had you back up all of your claims. I was being 'realistic'.

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