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So why does art exist again?
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Quote: from NeverDoFTW at 3:45 pm on April 21, 2007

Quote: from Dramatic23 at 8:58 am on April 20, 2007

Quote: from NeverDoFTW at 8:45 pm on April 19, 2007

I love art.  

  Painting is fun. Drawing is fun. Sculpture is fun.  

  ...I don't think I could live without art.


 

 Well, it looks like you just won! What a compelling argument.  

 See how that works out for you.


Haha, my argument being that it doesn't matter if it's useless.  

One could say, "why does music exist?" After all, it's quite useless. We have it because we like it.  

I like art, and I don't give a shit if people thinks it's useless.


Alright then. Just so we're clear.


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Quote: from born to be king at 12:17 am on April 21, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 9:28 am on April 20, 2007

Quote: from born to be king at 8:47 pm on April 17, 2007

Not sure if this has been said yet or not(9 pages is really long lol) but without art Computers would only be able to exist in DOS format as I feel that any form of design is creative expression and therefore art.  Television would consist only of news programs with straight presenting in a  completley objective manner. Also video games could not exist as they are also an art form in themselves.  The world would be a boring place without art, no entertainment, no colour, no life
 

 You are another of those selfish humans aren't you?


How does that make me selfish?


you don't seem to care about the advancement of humankind...just about your own pleasure and fun

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Quote: from NeverDoFTW at 12:45 pm on April 21, 2007

Quote: from Dramatic23 at 8:58 am on April 20, 2007

Quote: from NeverDoFTW at 8:45 pm on April 19, 2007

I love art.  

  Painting is fun. Drawing is fun. Sculpture is fun.  

  ...I don't think I could live without art.


 

 Well, it looks like you just won! What a compelling argument.  

 See how that works out for you.


Haha, my argument being that it doesn't matter if it's useless.  

One could say, "why does music exist?" After all, it's quite useless. We have it because we like it.  

I like art, and I don't give a shit if people thinks it's useless.


Music IS worthless shit...just like art.

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Think about art in a broader sense, if there were no art there would be no, music, theatre, TV, movies, photography. Imagine no melody in the world. No decoration, no theatre. Often which are more integral to cultures than they are in the Western world. What would humans be without all of this?

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Quote: from theatreminelli at 3:55 am on April 27, 2007

Think about art in a broader sense, if there were no art there would be no, music, theatre, TV, movies, photography. Imagine no melody in the world. No decoration, no theatre. Often which are more integral to cultures than they are in the Western world. What would humans be without all of this?

I am thinking about art in a certain sense. If you wish to be some liberal everything is one fag and call the science behind a telivision art or photography art than go for it. I obviously am not using art in that context. So maybe try and stay with the type of art we are talking about and defend the tree hugging liberal pot smoking shroom using artistic fags and their sucidal poetry or paintings like the stupid slef portraits or other shit like that.

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Quote: from Another Idiot at 3:34 pm on April 27, 2007

Quote: from theatreminelli at 3:55 am on April 27, 2007

Think about art in a broader sense, if there were no art there would be no, music, theatre, TV, movies, photography. Imagine no melody in the world. No decoration, no theatre. Often which are more integral to cultures than they are in the Western world. What would humans be without all of this?

I am thinking about art in a certain sense. If you wish to be some liberal everything is one fag and call the science behind a telivision art or photography art than go for it. I obviously am not using art in that context. So maybe try and stay with the type of art we are talking about and defend the tree hugging liberal pot smoking shroom using artistic fags and their sucidal poetry or paintings like the stupid slef portraits or other shit like that.


Not all 'artists are like that. I'm an artist and I'm not a pot smoking suicidal. Some artists actually want to make a difference to soceity through what they do. Like art therapy, some way there is no other way to communicate with kids who have been abused or disabled children. If art can help them in any way shape or form then I'm all for that.

Also we are visual creatures, we need visual stimulation, to see something beautful, it makes us who we are.

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Theres a simple answer to this - pleasure. Humans experience pleasure when both creating and viewing the art, and although pleasure wont create spaceships, it is pivotal to what sets the human race apart from our animal counterparts.

The majority of our actions wont help further the human race either. I challenge you do one thing in your lifetime that will revolutionise the human race.

And call me a hippie all you want, but artists tend to be much more open minded than the every day person. An open mind is open to new ideas, so who says an artist wont be the author to some mind blowing new idea that will change the world forever.

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Quote: from theatreminelli at 3:34 am on April 28, 2007

Quote: from Another Idiot at 3:34 pm on April 27, 2007

Quote: from theatreminelli at 3:55 am on April 27, 2007

Think about art in a broader sense, if there were no art there would be no, music, theatre, TV, movies, photography. Imagine no melody in the world. No decoration, no theatre. Often which are more integral to cultures than they are in the Western world. What would humans be without all of this?
 

 I am thinking about art in a certain sense. If you wish to be some liberal everything is one fag and call the science behind a telivision art or photography art than go for it. I obviously am not using art in that context. So maybe try and stay with the type of art we are talking about and defend the tree hugging liberal pot smoking shroom using artistic fags and their sucidal poetry or paintings like the stupid slef portraits or other shit like that.


I'm an artist and I'm not a pot smoking suicidal.



How can you be one w/o the other.

Some artists actually want to make a difference to soceity through what they do.


fucking liberal fags

Like art therapy, some way there is no other way to communicate with kids who have been abused or disabled children.


Freud could have helped them.

If art can help them in any way shape or form then I'm all for that.  


It's actually just a made up psuedoscience that's a load of shit and doesn't help the children at all.

Also we are visual creatures, we need visual stimulation, to see something beautful, it makes us who we are.

yay visual stimulus...drawings of fags killing themselves...how nice...or some stupid shit like lenardo's paintings of some stupid bitch just sitting there. It sooooo defines us.

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Quote: from dissilusioned at 7:37 am on April 30, 2007

Theres a simple answer to this - pleasure. Humans experience pleasure when both creating and viewing the art, and although pleasure wont create spaceships, it is pivotal to what sets the human race apart from our animal counterparts.

Uhhhhh...animals like pleasure too. giving into our base instincts leaves us more like animals. Our creations, like spaceships make us different than animals. No other animals have technology anywhere near like ours. Humans also experience pleasure when creating scientific shit or solving math problems or becoming smarter....


The majority of our actions wont help further the human race either. I challenge you do one thing in your lifetime that will revolutionise the human race.


what of it?
I'm sure I'll do something to help the human race unlike the stupid artists hippies who drain our society and are like a parasite. Unlike me, there net values to society will be negative.


And call me a hippie all you want, but artists tend to be much more open minded than the every day person. An open mind is open to new ideas, so who says an artist wont be the author to some mind blowing new idea that will change the world forever.

ahahahhahahhahahahahahahahah
did artists make the atomic bomb? no
did they make the wheel...no
etc....
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Art is not just shoved into one category as paint on paper, art is many things. Dance,writing,paintings and music are all examples of art.Even spoken words are art. In school systems they encourage "Fine Arts" because it helps the children become more cultural. Also, not all people view things in the same way.One person may better understand a subject in analysis rather than in a drawing, and vice versa.Your question, if I'm correct, is addressing the topic on why we have art. We can not help people throughout the world unless we understand them culturally and are able to communicate to them in all aspects.

Also just throwing an ontological question out there,what is art?Art can be everything and anything, it just the way one perceives it.


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Quote: from princessalyssa at 4:23 pm on May 2, 2007

Art is not just shoved into one category as paint on paper, art is many things. Dance,writing,paintings and music are all examples of art.Even spoken words are art. In school systems they encourage "Fine Arts" because it helps the children become more cultural. Also, not all people view things in the same way.One person may better understand a subject in analysis rather than in a drawing, and vice versa.Your question, if I'm correct, is addressing the topic on why we have art. We can not help people throughout the world unless we understand them culturally and are able to communicate to them in all aspects.

Also just throwing an ontological question out there,what is art?Art can be everything and anything, it just the way one perceives it.



illiterate cunt...


this topic is the longest one in this forum...lolz

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Hmm wow,I thought the intellectual forum was a place where people could be more mature.I suppose not.
So, thanks.
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Quote: from princessalyssa at 4:43 pm on May 2, 2007

Hmm wow,I thought the intellectual forum was a place where people could be more mature.I suppose not.
So, thanks.
I love you too.
:D

I would expect people in the intellectual forum to be capable of reading but you just demonstrated that you merely have basic reading skills which are far below what I would expect from an intellectual.

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Look I really don't have energy to argue today.
I'm really not a rude person, if I come off to be.
If you want me to say I'm wrong and an idiot then I am.
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Quote: from princessalyssa at 5:27 pm on May 2, 2007

Look I really don't have energy to argue today.
I'm really not a rude person, if I come off to be.
If you want me to say I'm wrong and an idiot then I am.
:D


lolz

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