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Evidence for a 6000 year old Universe.
Scientific evidence that the universe is not billions of years old
Replies: 80Last Post Dec. 9, 2006 7:20pm by Apotheosis
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History began at your birth... Nothing more to this place we call Earth

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Quote: from obvious child at 12:20 am on Dec. 1, 2006

That's what, the 5th time you've posted this refuted bullshit?

Christ does not look favorably upon liars such as you

Liar, liar pants on fire.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE401.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE380.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE261.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD221_1.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD220.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD701.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CF/CF201.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD015.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD011_3.html

 
Anytime yank says anything about evolution or creation, look it up, there's a good chance he's lying his ass off

What makes you go to such dishonest lengths to reassert your own faith?

If you had a strong belief, you wouldn't post this bullshit. Someone's not only a lying piece of shit that's probably going to hell for the sheer amount of dishonesty, but you're also insecure in your belief.

Thank you for showing that creationists betray the teachings of Christ.


My boy... Christians betray the teachings of Christ... For our minds Christianity is the bigger heist

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Quote: from Liberation at 2:29 pm on Nov. 30, 2006

My boy... Christians betray the teachings of Christ... For our minds Christianity is the bigger heist

True, but of the Christians, literal Creationists are by far the worst.

Christ did not support the practice of fraud, deciet and lies yet those are the key pillars of Literal creationism.

Creationists are hardly Christian in behavior.

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We should keep this thread around just to remind people that Yankee Fan and literal creationists are the Scum of not only Christanity, but of the World

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Noooooooooooooooo.

Not more Ussherian BS.

Yankee, people like you give Christians (and all theists) a bad name.

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Quote: from IamNotBritish at 3:04 pm on Nov. 30, 2006

Yankee, people like you give Christians (and all theists) a bad name.

Well...that is what he's trying to do. How else do you discredit a religion? By acting as a ridiculous fanatic of it and acting in ways that drive people from it.

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http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE380.html

Density waves:

The theory has conceptual problems, has to be arbitrarily and very finely tuned, and has been called into serious question by the Hubble Space Telescope’s discovery of very detailed spiral structure in the central hub of the “Whirlpool” galaxy, M51.2

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE401.html

Your link only addressed supernovas far away, when the argument is based on observations of nearby stars.

Yet the nearby parts of our galaxy in which we could observe such gas and dust shells contain only about 200 supernova remnants. That number is consistent with only about 7,000 years worth of supernovas.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE261.html

Your link failed to address this point:

Evolutionists explain this discrepancy by assuming that (a) comets come from an unobserved spherical “Oort cloud” well beyond the orbit of Pluto, (b) improbable gravitational interactions with infrequently passing stars often knock comets into the solar system, and (c) other improbable interactions with planets slow down the incoming comets often enough to account for the hundreds of comets observed.5 So far, none of these assumptions has been substantiated either by observations or realistic calculations. Lately, there has been much talk of the “Kuiper Belt,” a disc of supposed comet sources lying in the plane of the solar system just outside the orbit of Pluto. Some asteroid-sized bodies of ice exist in that location, but they do not solve the evolutionists’ problem, since according to evolutionary theory, the Kuiper Belt would quickly become exhausted if there were no Oort cloud to supply it.

I could go on but this is getting boring.  Your talkorigin links have already been refuted in the opening post, please read the entire point BEFORE you cite a link to refute it.

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All this to try to prove Ussher's flawed assumptions.

How pathetic kids are these days...

Post edited at 6:45 pm on Nov. 30, 2006 by IamNotBritish

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I'd be delighted to see a model of the size, mass and age of all known stars in the Universe, their distance to us and how exactly does their light reach us, according to the 6,000 year old Universe.

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Apparently yank thinks that since we know everything about the universe, that the current model supports a 6,000 year old planet. the arrogance astounds me.

Hello idiot. Nearby stars are on the fringe the of the universe. Fringe stars are younger. Does anyone else see Yank's idiocy here?

Evolution doesn't discuss comets except in extinctions. No one thinks you have any idea of what honesty is.

Um...does anyone else besides me understand how gravity works? Astronomy, not evolution idiot, says that comets come from a variety of sources, many of them not from our solar system.

Christ sakes, you can stop with the anti-christian charade

No one believes a damn thing you say anymore.

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How could there be a universe that is 6000 years old?  Galaxies are too unstable at that young age to be able to support life.  That also fails to address the animal remnants (bones) that existed before any found human (or humanoid) remains.  They can also date capsule of O2 and CO2 within ice shelves that is over 600,000 years of age.  And I saw little to no real proof on that website give.  Not to mention the fact that .ORG sites are not always truthful, I could start a .org for free/cheap and write whatever bullshit I want to and people would believe it.  

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Evidence that Earth is 4.5 billion years old.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html

Just how good are YEC arguments (or bad for that matter)?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood.html

Like usual, Yank relies on false methodology and false staistics

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/#BM10

The difference between your site yank and mine, is that mine you can actually view the reference's original source document and often see the relevant raw data.

You remeber Ice yes? You remember his comment on carbon dating in North America where the source document refuted his claims?

Dishonesty and creationism go hand in hand.

Post edited at 10:57 pm on Nov. 30, 2006 by obvious child

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I would argue with Yankeefan, but there is no point arguing with fanatically held viewpoint that is just plain wrong, the only thing that can be done is to ignore it until it goes away, or suppress it if it starts to get too popular.

Post edited at 12:02 am on Dec. 1, 2006 by Tangaroa


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Well, it could be said that arguing with a troll who's primary purpose is to make christanity look foolish is just helping them.

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Quote: from yankeefan at 11:06 am on Dec. 1, 2006

It's a .ORG website, not a .COM

And that makes it factual how?

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I feel for IamNotBritish, and his mob. If yankeefan is God's marketing, God really needs to look into his advertising strategies.

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