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Ronal Regan denies the Holocause story
Replies: 82Last Post July 10, 2012 8:57pm by skaterofthefuture
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Luckily he's American, in many other countries he'd be put in jail for this objective assessment!



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He's dead, mate.

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The short clip was indeed Reagan and it was taken in 1967. However, the topic was not the Holocaust. In fact, during a CBS Television and Radio broadcast on May 15th hosted by Charles Collingwood, then Governor Ronald Reagan was debating aspects of the Vietnam war with then Senator Robert F. Kennedy.

Jeff Jordan asked Reagan whether he approved that the Diem regime put six million in forced prison camps and that American advisors did nothing "but help them in this." To which Reagan responded,

"I challenge your history again. There is absolutely no record that six million people were put in concentration camps. They only have 16 million to begin with. Now, I'd also like to challenge something else about the supposed evils of the Diem regime. I do approve of Diem's land reform in which he took from the great mandarin holdings, and began to make land available to the peasants and to the people of Vietnam, who had never owned land before. But also, I would like to call to your attention that a team from the U.N. was sent to Saigon, Vietnam, to investigate the charges against Diem's regime They did investigate those, but as they returned to this country, Diem was assassinated, which I think was one of the great tragedies of this whole conflict; and the United Nations report, which they declined to make official because they thought why bring anything up now that he's been killed, has on the other hand, been published, there has been public access to it, and the United Nations report completely cleared the Diem regime of any of the charges that had been brought against him."

And thus in minutes our 9 second clip is exposed as a complete hoax. I certainly hope that this hoax disappears quickly from the internet and is not passed around by those who think they have found an ally in Ronald Reagan. This video post, with it's false caption, asserting a Holocaust connection does a disservice to all interested in historical truth. It, along with its originator, should be denounced from all quarters.

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Talk about owned.

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-1 for you, KR.

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Here's the full video:

Reagan's statement starts at about the 2:25 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMzTcvXk1j4

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doesn't change the fact that 6 million was a lie

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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:09 pm on July 7, 2012

doesn't change the fact that 6 million was a lie
"Fact"? You stick your foot in your mouth, down your throat and out of your ass, and you still want to claim "facts"?

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Yeah, when something is supported by a plethora of evidence - like the claim that 6 million Jews died during WWII is a lie - it's considered a fact.
There's no evidence, none whatsoever to support such a claim. The six million number is a gross exaggeration, you can't justify it.

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First, defend your use of a bogus video. You just shit all over your credibility.

Post edited at 2:07 pm on July 7, 2012 by Forever Angel

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:06 pm on July 7, 2012

First, defend your use of a bogus video. You just shit all over your credibility.
Qft

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:06 pm on July 7, 2012

First, defend your use of a bogus video. You just shit all over your credibility.
Wasn't paying much attention, even the most thumbs-upped video argues that it was out of context although mentions the fact that 6 million is a lie anyway.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:24 pm on July 7, 2012

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:06 pm on July 7, 2012

First, defend your use of a bogus video. You just shit all over your credibility.
Wasn't paying much attention, even the most thumbs-upped video argues that it was out of context although mentions the fact that 6 million is a lie anyway.

Your lack of research into such an easily refuted piece of bullshit has, in my mind anyway, put all your claims under a very dark cloud of doubt. If all your walls of text come from sources with similar mindsets, you might rethink your viewpoint.

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And FA waits patiently until I make one big mistake to go apeshit on all of my claims. LAUGHABLE!

Just look at the effort I put into this thread. It took 10 seconds at 2am at night. Didn't put as much thought into it as the vast majority of my threads:
http://golivewire.com/forums/myposts.cgi?action=539065526

But how about we debate then FA? If you think my sources are flawed or bullshit, let's have a debate and see? What could you lose? This is your chance to display to all of livewire your ability to show the misguided beliefs I have.

Post edited at 5:36 pm on July 7, 2012 by kidd rune

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:35 pm on July 7, 2012

Just look at the effort I put into this thread. It took 10 seconds at 2am at night. Didn't put as much thought into it as the vast majority of my threads
The point would be the eagerness with which you accepted it, posted it and "gloried" in it. "Oh, look... an American icon rejects the holocaust... proof positive that it never happened!!!"

When you become so sure of yourself that you no longer need to check your sources, even your supporters will abandon you. Check your favorite sites that posted this video... they will either be worthless from now on, or will have already backtracked their promotion of it. And here you are, no apology, no embarrassment, simply a belligerent attitude... "well, debate me then!" LOL.

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