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Replies: 29Last Post July 26, 2012 4:30pm by kidd rune
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You clearly have no idea about what you're talking about. Every race can increase muscle size through lifting weights, that's not the point at all. How do you explain the complete domination of Negroids in Olympic sprinting events but their complete absence in swimming events?

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Black people don't like water lol  

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Why do always refuse to accept innate differences? I really don't get it, it's like you really think that "Skin color" is the only difference. One day you will realize that the differences between Blacks and Whites far exceed the minimum required to classify them into separate SPECIES much less subspecies. One day you will learn.

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What would classifying us as different species do?

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The fact of the matter is that it's the truth and the truth ALWAYS triumphs. There is no other justification needed, none at all. You're always looking at information the wrong way, you need to get rid of the emotion and only look at it rationally and objectively.

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I simply said I didn't understand the musculature one. That's not me refusing to accept innate differences, that's just me pointing out that the difference isn't noticeable. The way you look at things is far from rational so no thanks on your advice.

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Clearly you don't understand what he's talking about, because there obviously are differences in muscles as evidenced by Black domination in sprinting and White domination in swimming. Also, Blacks have a much higher rate of fast-twitch muscle fibers. You're completely misrepresenting the claim and then saying it doesn't make sense - and obviously it doesn't make sense if you don't know what you're talking about.

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I'm not continuously denying that's what the video meant, but I'm still going to point out that it could be taken the other way.  

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What other way? That both races can increase muscle size through working out? It has nothing to do with the video, we're talking about heredity-based morphological differences, which obviously exist.

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No, that the two races naturally have or are only capable of gaining the physique depicted in the 2 different photographs.

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Oops sorry fucked that up.

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I think they're absent from swimming events because a lot of the blacks would be from poorer areas that don't have an abundance of swimming pools?

Like just a thought.

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Fugiama is right, black people can have the same muscle type as depicted by the White guy in the video.



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Quote: from Harbinger II at 7:15 pm on July 26, 2012

I think they're absent from swimming events because a lot of the blacks would be from poorer areas that don't have an abundance of swimming pools?

Like just a thought.


That's such an absurd claim, and obviously makes no sense. When it gets to the Olympic level such nonsense doesn't really apply as Blacks are completely absent. There are a few inherent differences between the races to explain why Whites consistently outperform Blacks in swimming, and why Blacks don't really excel in Olympic swimming events. Possibly because they have heavier skeletons and larger chest cavities.

They have lower lung spirometry and higher peak bone mass.

http://web.archive.org/web/20051225133249/http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/CF101-72.HTML
"[...]American women of African heritage are characterized by the highest peak bone mass[...]"

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2004-154c/pdfs/2004-154c-ch6.pdf
"[...]For a given standing height, African-American men, on the average, have longer legs than Caucasian men, and a correspondingly shorter trunk size; and therefore slightly smaller lungs (29,31,32,33)[...]"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9872837
"Spirometric reference values for Caucasians, African-Americans, and Mexican-Americans 8 to 80 yr of age were developed from 7,429 asymptomatic, lifelong nonsmoking participants in the third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III). Spirometry examinations followed the 1987 American Thoracic Society recommendations, and the quality of the data was continuously monitored and maintained. Caucasian subjects had higher mean FVC and FEV1 values than did Mexican-American and African-American subjects across the entire age range."

They also have more fast-twitch muscle fibers, Whites have more slow-twitch muscle fibers.
Fast-twitch have more bulk, which is what you don't want in swimming. It is good for short bursts - a good explanation as to why Jamaica obtained many medals in 1/4 mile or less sprints.

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Quote: from Fugiama at 5:57 pm on July 26, 2012

No, that the two races naturally have or are only capable of gaining the physique depicted in the 2 different photographs.
Quote: from Harbinger II at 7:17 pm on July 26, 2012

Fugiama is right, black people can have the same muscle type as depicted by the White guy in the video.
You both are taking it too literally. That's obviously not what the video was trying to say, it was simply trying to state that there are inherent musculature differences between the races, and it just gave photos in comparison and not necessarily as undeniable proof. Plus, it obviously was not arguing that Blacks can't get that thick, there is much, much more to musculature than the exact size of course. In fact, it's pretty hard to find traits in which the races do not differ as the genetic distances between Whites and Blacks are incredibly massive.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1359/jbmr.2001.16.7.1343/full
"Men were taller, heavier, had a greater LM, and lower absolute and relative FM than women (p < 0.001), with LM and FM higher in blacks (Table 1). Similar sex and race effects were observed for upper limb LM and FM. Regional and whole body BMD was greater in men than women and in blacks than whites, even after adjustment for height and body weight. Further, race and sex differences for upper and lower limb BMD were independent of LM and FM or age, study site, height, LM, and FM. However, both adjustments resulted in no difference between black women and white men for whole body BMD or between white women and white men for femoral neck BMD. Handgrip strength and knee extensor torque were higher in men than in women and higher in blacks than in whites (p < 0.001). After adjustment for body size or LM, sex differences remained in muscle strength. Regarding members of the Health ABC cohort who did not have complete measures, they were not distinguished from those included in this report with regard to body composition, muscle strength, hip, or upper limb BMD; however, whole body and lower limb BMD were higher in white men and white women with incomplete measures as was lower limb BMD in black women."

You've got to be ridiculously naive to pretend that there are not very significant morphological differences between Whites and Blacks - and, as the video shows, intelligence differences too.

Post edited at 4:31 pm on July 26, 2012 by kidd rune

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