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Germany outlaws circumcision
Replies: 67Last Post July 20, 2012 11:47pm by ChemicEmotions
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Quote: from ThereForTomorrow at 6:38 pm on July 18, 2012

Funny how people call it mutilation when it's clearly not
unwillingly removing one of the most sensitive parts of the male anatomy and you DON'T call it mutilation?

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honestly i don't understand why parents have to do things to their children's bodies just because they want it done. circumcisions, piercings, whatever. why is it so difficult to let your child make their own choices? along with circumcision, piercing a baby/child's ears when they are too young to decide whether they want them pierced should be illegal too.

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You guys are so one sided it's unbelievable.

I don't see anything wrong with a parent choosing to get rid of the foreskin. It's their child, not yours, gtfo and shut up.

Do whatever you think is best for your own child; but lay off the people who want to circumcise their boys

I've never heard of a guy saying "lol I miss my foreskin gaiz my parents are such dicks"

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Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 9:52 pm on July 18, 2012

You guys are so one sided it's unbelievable.

I don't see anything wrong with a parent choosing to get rid of the foreskin. It's their child, not yours, gtfo and shut up.  

Do whatever you think is best for your own child; but lay off the people who want to circumcise their boys

I've never heard of a guy saying "lol I miss my foreskin gaiz my parents are such dicks"


So I take it you don't support "my body, my choice"?  Why should a parent be able to make that kind of decision for their child, assuming it's not medically necessary?

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Quote: from Bud2400 at 12:04 am on July 19, 2012

Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 9:52 pm on July 18, 2012

You guys are so one sided it's unbelievable.  

 I don't see anything wrong with a parent choosing to get rid of the foreskin. It's their child, not yours, gtfo and shut up.

 Do whatever you think is best for your own child; but lay off the people who want to circumcise their boys  

 I've never heard of a guy saying "lol I miss my foreskin gaiz my parents are such dicks"


So I take it you don't support "my body, my choice"? Why should a parent be able to make that kind of decision for their child, assuming it's not medically necessary?


I just don't see how it's fair to say "omg you are a HORRIBLE PARENT for not letting them choose!" when the parent is making the choice either way.

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Quote: from Friendship is Magic at 11:41 am on July 18, 2012

i'm curious to know the circumcisions rates on a state by state basis, just to see how that looks

http://www.hcup-us.ahrq.gov/reports/statbriefs/sb45.jsp

This shows some regional differences, The Northeast and Midwest have the highest rates of circumcision, the South is middling, and in the West a large majority (about 2 in every 3 infant males) are not circumcised.

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Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 10:10 pm on July 18, 2012

I just don't see how it's fair to say "omg you are a HORRIBLE PARENT for not letting them choose!" when the parent is making the choice either way.

In one case, you can choose to circumcise your infant son's penis and decrease his sexual pleasure for the duration of his life.  In the other, you can choose to let him choose if he wants to decrease his sexual pleasure myself.

And you don't think a person is a horrible parent if they choose the first option, assuming it was not medically necessary?

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I think this argument is fucking pointless and everybody needs to chill. Who cares what I think?

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Good, I'm glad. I left my son uncut and he's never had a problem. He can decide for himself when he's older.

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I've never really understood the whole circumcision argument. It sounds like mainly a cosmetic thing to me.

Over here circumcisions are really uncommon. The only person I've ever met who is circumcised is my friend's brother, and that was done for medical reasons.

It's unnecessary and unfair on the poor child, and Germany are just right to ban it.

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Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 1:16 am on July 19, 2012

I think this argument is fucking pointless and everybody needs to chill. Who cares what I think?

Which is just code for you can't defend your position.



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Quote: from Rabgix at 10:14 pm on July 19, 2012

Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 1:16 am on July 19, 2012

I think this argument is fucking pointless and everybody needs to chill. Who cares what I think?

Which is just code for you can't defend your position.


No, it means I think that it's useless to argue about something that's going to be up to the parents, regardless if they are for or against it.

I do have my own opinion on it, and it's great to have an outlet to say these things; but why would I subject myself to pointless things?

Sorry that I don't have the time to care.

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Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 4:13 am on July 20, 2012

Quote: from Rabgix at 10:14 pm on July 19, 2012

Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 1:16 am on July 19, 2012

I think this argument is fucking pointless and everybody needs to chill. Who cares what I think?
 

 Which is just code for you can't defend your position.  

 


No, it means I think that it's useless to argue about something that's going to be up to the parents, regardless if they are for or against it.  

I do have my own opinion on it, and it's great to have an outlet to say these things; but why would I subject myself to pointless things?

Sorry that I don't have the time to care.


We're not political activists, this is a teen forum. We debate things on here all the time. This discussion in particular is about the ethics of circumcision.

So either assert your position and be ready to back it up or get the fuck out.

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Quote: from Rabgix at 8:55 am on July 20, 2012

Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 4:13 am on July 20, 2012

Quote: from Rabgix at 10:14 pm on July 19, 2012

Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 1:16 am on July 19, 2012

I think this argument is fucking pointless and everybody needs to chill. Who cares what I think?

  Which is just code for you can't defend your position.

 


No, it means I think that it's useless to argue about something that's going to be up to the parents, regardless if they are for or against it.

 I do have my own opinion on it, and it's great to have an outlet to say these things; but why would I subject myself to pointless things?  

 Sorry that I don't have the time to care.


We're not political activists, this is a teen forum. We debate things on here all the time. This discussion in particular is about the ethics of circumcision.

So either assert your position and be ready to back it up or get the fuck out.


I asserted my position, and that's all I need to do.

Regardless of how srs you take the interwebz, I don't have to do jack shit.

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And what is your position?

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