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Quote: from Harbinger II at 6:43 am on July 15, 2012

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They could just throw the thing over the DMZ for fuck sake.  

 South Korea would be there target.

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If this were to actually happen and Seoul were bombed the U.S. and the U.K. would probably join South Korea and Japan and invade North Korea, prompting China to get involved on their behalf and invade Formosa.

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In other words, it would be an awful shit storm in which many people would die.

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Quote: from Harbinger II at 10:13 pm on July 14, 2012

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They could just throw the thing over the DMZ for fuck sake.  

 South Korea would be there target.

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Thank you!

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Quote: from Doubleshift at 10:07 pm on July 14, 2012

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I hope not, but not all leaders are rational. For example, Kim Jong Un would probably launch a nuke without any concern for the welfare of his population. Irrationality is the most terrifying thing in international politics.

   

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   They probably don't even have the technology to launch one.

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  North Korea already has nuclear capability...

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  http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/13/world/la-fg-us-norkor-20120414

  They can test it as much as they want, but if they can't deliver it then it doesn't matter.

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 That wasn't a nuclear rocket.  

 If you did your research, you would know that was a highly advertised satellite launch gone wrong.  

 North Korea has launched missiles successfully. Again, if North Korea wanted to it could put both working missile technology and nuclear capability together. That's besides the fact that not all nukes are on ICBMs.

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I know it wasn't a nuclear rocket. They can't even launch a fucking satellite. If they can't do that, chances are they lack the technology to launch an nuclear weapon.  
herp derp a derp

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_missile_tests
(I wouldn't usually put a wikipedia link, but it's just a list of North Korean rocket tests.)
Also, as someone else pointed out, any nuke North Korea launches will be at South Korea.

On a side note, you entirely missed the point of my original post.

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Quote: from Harbinger II at 6:43 am on July 15, 2012

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They could just throw the thing over the DMZ for fuck sake.  

 South Korea would be there target.

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If this were to actually happen and Seoul were bombed the U.S. and the U.K. would probably join South Korea and Japan and invade North Korea, prompting China to get involved on their behalf and invade Formosa.

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Quote: from Harbinger II at 6:43 am on July 15, 2012

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They could just throw the thing over the DMZ for fuck sake.

  South Korea would be there target.

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 If this were to actually happen and Seoul were bombed the U.S. and the U.K. would probably join South Korea and Japan and invade North Korea, prompting China to get involved on their behalf and invade Formosa.

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Are you sure about China getting involved like that? I always believed NK was basically China's embarrassing younger stepbrother.

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China would recognize an attack on North Korea as an example of western expansion and an aggressive act against communist nations in the far east. China is also another nation that doesn't care about the quality of life that it's own population has. War with China would hurt us as much as it would hurt them. Lastly, China has it's own acts of aggression that it needs an ally to help justify.

The issue of imminent destruction was already addressed.

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I hope not, but not all leaders are rational. For example, Kim Jong Un would probably launch a nuke without any concern for the welfare of his population. Irrationality is the most terrifying thing in international politics.        

   

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    They probably don't even have the technology to launch one.

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   North Korea already has nuclear capability...

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  http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/13/world/la-fg-us-norkor-20120414    

  They can test it as much as they want, but if they can't deliver it then it doesn't matter.

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  That wasn't a nuclear rocket.    

  If you did your research, you would know that was a highly advertised satellite launch gone wrong.

  North Korea has launched missiles successfully. Again, if North Korea wanted to it could put both working missile technology and nuclear capability together. That's besides the fact that not all nukes are on ICBMs.

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 I know it wasn't a nuclear rocket. They can't even launch a fucking satellite. If they can't do that, chances are they lack the technology to launch an nuclear weapon.
 herp derp a derp  

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_missile_tests
(I wouldn't usually put a wikipedia link, but it's just a list of North Korean rocket tests.)
Also, as someone else pointed out, any nuke North Korea launches will be at South Korea.  

On a side note, you entirely missed the point of my original post.

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Quote: from carracer at 9:48 pm on July 14, 2012

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I hope not, but not all leaders are rational. For example, Kim Jong Un would probably launch a nuke without any concern for the welfare of his population. Irrationality is the most terrifying thing in international politics.

     

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    They probably don't even have the technology to launch one.

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    North Korea already has nuclear capability...

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   http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/13/world/la-fg-us-norkor-20120414

   They can test it as much as they want, but if they can't deliver it then it doesn't matter.

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  That wasn't a nuclear rocket.  

  If you did your research, you would know that was a highly advertised satellite launch gone wrong.    

  North Korea has launched missiles successfully. Again, if North Korea wanted to it could put both working missile technology and nuclear capability together. That's besides the fact that not all nukes are on ICBMs.

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  I know it wasn't a nuclear rocket. They can't even launch a fucking satellite. If they can't do that, chances are they lack the technology to launch an nuclear weapon.    
  herp derp a derp

 

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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_missile_tests  
 (I wouldn't usually put a wikipedia link, but it's just a list of North Korean rocket tests.)  
 Also, as someone else pointed out, any nuke North Korea launches will be at South Korea.

 On a side note, you entirely missed the point of my original post.

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I think we have come upon a misunderstanding. North Korea lacks the technology to launch long-range missiles. I understand they have the capability to launch short range missiles, but until they can launch long-range missiles, will always appear inadequate in the eyes of the world. NK has the biggest inferiority complex. I imagine the Kim Jung un wouldn't dare embarrass himself further until he is confident in the technology of the NK, which is incredibly outdated.

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Ah, understood. North Korea definitely has an inferiority complex, but I do believe that it may at some point attack South Korea to try to 'prove itself worthy' or world respect.

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Quote: from MorningStar at 10:20 pm on July 14, 2012

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Quote: from Harbinger II at 6:43 am on July 15, 2012

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They could just throw the thing over the DMZ for fuck sake.    

  South Korea would be there target.

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  If this were to actually happen and Seoul were bombed the U.S. and the U.K. would probably join South Korea and Japan and invade North Korea, prompting China to get involved on their behalf and invade Formosa.

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 Are you sure about China getting involved like that? I always believed NK was basically China's embarrassing younger stepbrother.

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China would recognize an attack on North Korea as an example of western expansion and an aggressive act against communist nations in the far east. China is also another nation that doesn't care about the quality of life that it's own population has. War with China would hurt us as much as it would hurt them. Lastly, China has it's own acts of aggression that it needs an ally to help justify.

The issue of imminent destruction was already addressed.

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Post edited at 8:32 pm on July 14, 2012 by Serj Tankian

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and to answer OP I think yes, and it will involve Israel.

America is declining and without that support Israel is up to their own defences.

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BAM and the dirt is gone!

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China has ambitious plans to have more than 100 reactors operating by 2020 to help curb surging demand for coal and imported oil and gas. But development was suspended after Japan's March 2011 tsunami crippled the Fukushima power plant, causing the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl in 1986.

Authorities launched an inspection of China's 13 operating reactors following the Fukushima disaster and said they found no problems. They said they were reviewing work on the 28 reactors under construction.

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http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/story/2012-06-06/China-Nuclear-IPO/55417244/1

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For the first time since the dawn of the space age, China's Long March rocket family eclipsed the annual flight rate of the U.S. fleet of space launchers Thursday with the successful deployment of a high-resolution mapping satellite.

A Long March 4B booster lifted off at 0326 GMT Thursday (10:26 p.m. EST Wednesday) from the Taiyuan launching base in Shanxi province, according to the state-run Xinhua news agency.

The 150-foot-tall rocket released a Ziyuan remote sensing satellite into orbit 13 minutes later, according to the Chinese defense ministry.

Chinese officials said the mission was flawless, marking the country's 18th successful space launch in 19 tries this year. The United States is 17-for-18 with flights of the space shuttle and the Atlas, Delta, Taurus and Minotaur rocket systems.

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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1112/22longmarch/

Post edited at 8:49 pm on July 18, 2012 by Hex Omega

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I hope not, but not all leaders are rational. For example, Kim Jong Un would probably launch a nuke without any concern for the welfare of his population. Irrationality is the most terrifying thing in international politics.

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