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( skaterofthefuture )
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I don't think that guy represents Wisconsin any more than Holmes represents Colorado or McVeigh represents Oklahoma.
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kidd rune
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Based on the article I don't see any reason to believe that the shooting was necessarily racially motivated, seeing as Sikh's aren't a race. What have Sikh's done to Whites? It doesn't make sense at all, maybe if he shot up a Black church or a Jew synagogue but it simply seems like a random act of violence. The article paints the guy as some massive White supremacist neo-Nazi but what proof do we have that this was the justification behind his act? He had a celtic cross tattoo that has many purposes and doesn't at all imply "White supremacy" and any article that says stormfront is a "neo-Nazi" site is utterly ridiculous and doesn't know what the term even means.
And once again nobody has ever said there are no "Racists" in the world, only an idiot would think that.
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( skaterofthefuture )
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So it would "make more sense" if he shot up people in a black church or a synagogue? Okaaayyy...
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Either brain-dead or trolling, likely a mixture of both. Once again I will repeat that it wouldn't make sense for the act of a supposed militant "Neo-Nazi" or "White supremacist" to be racially motivated if done against Sikhs, it just doesn't fit. But if it was done against Jews or Blacks specifically, it would make more sense. Just because someone has a history of racial consciousness does not mean that every criminal act he does in his life was related to that.
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"The Jewish problem is one of the greatest problems in the world, and
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( skaterofthefuture )
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Still waiting for you to use grammatically correct sentences. Still waiting for you to show me an actual white racist. 
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kidd rune
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Waiting for me to show you a White racist? You never asked. But it's likely that Benjamin Nathaniel Smith was a so-called "Racist" but once again it has nothing to do with the OP so I don't really see the point. Furthermore I'm waiting for you to specifically state who exactly on this forum said that "Racists" don't exist, or to admit that you simply pulled that lie out of your ass.
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"The Jewish problem is one of the greatest problems in the world, and
no man, be he writer, politician or diplomatist, can be considered mature
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( skaterofthefuture )
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From the horse's mouth:
 What he told me during the course of our time together was that he really started to identify with the neo-Nazism during his time in the military," said Simi, who met Page in 2001 while doing a study on white power groups in California. "And specifically, what he told me at one point was that, if you join the military and you're not a racist, then you certainly will be by the time you leave."
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( skaterofthefuture )
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"He was involved with white supremacy. He talked about the racial holy war a lot," said Chris Robillard, who met Page at Fort Bragg in 1995 when both were doing psychological operations training.
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kidd rune
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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 7:21 pm on Aug. 8, 2012
If you really believe Benjamin Nathaniel Smith is a racist why do you add "so-called" and why do you put racist in quotes? Do you have any doubts or reservations about his racism? 
Because the word itself is misleading and meaningless. If he beleieves in racial superiority he's ethnocentric. If he hates other races he's prejudiced. "Racism" as a word pretty much combines multiple different concepts and acts as if they are combined or interchangeable. It's inherently misleading.
Also: what makes him a racist if you do believe he is a good example?
What would make the guy described in the OP not a racist compared to Benjamin Nathaniel Smith?
I'm not arguing whether or not the OP is a so-called "Racist" but whether the crime itself was racially motivated. The 2nd guy specifically targeted Blacks and Jews which are obvious targets for White racists - Jewish corruption and subversion are basically the reasons behind "Diversity" which is what the vast majority of racially-conscious Whites ("Racist" by definition or not) oppose. Blacks are simply an obvious minority group that has a long history of having negative race relations with Whites. Sikhs do not have this, and Sikhs are even Caucasian, arguably similar to Whites, being predominantly Irano-Nordid. Furthermore they have done nothing to harm Whites as a group, at least nothing even close to what Blacks or Jews have done.
Is Benjamin Nathaniel Smith the only white racist you can name?
No, but I don't have a list of "Racist" Whites because I don't really care. I see no reason to group people by such a silly term because it can be used to describe multiple different beliefs.
Finally I used the words "seem to think." You seem to have trouble understanding the word "seem" and the nature of a question vs affirmation.
You still have not given one single name to substantiate your allegation. Who "seems to think" that there are no "Racists"? I have not seen anyone post anything to suggest such stupidity, please name them. Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 8:24 pm on Aug. 8, 2012
From the horse's mouth:
What he told me during the course of our time together was that he really started to identify with the neo-Nazism during his time in the military," said Simi, who met Page in 2001 while doing a study on white power groups in California. "And specifically, what he told me at one point was that, if you join the military and you're not a racist, then you certainly will be by the time you leave."
Whether or not he's a so-called "Racist" is irrelevant, he also allegedly had non-White friends too. Just because someone is a so-called "Racist" doesn't mean the crimes they commit are motivated by it. The Batman shooter worked at a Jewish summer camp, did being around Jews motivate him to murder all of those people?
You can't make such baseless connections without any actual proof.
"He was involved with white supremacy. He talked about the racial holy war a lot," said Chris Robillard, who met Page at Fort Bragg in 1995 when both were doing psychological operations training.
Yeah and people on this forum would say I'm involved in "White supremacy" although I denounce the ideology as fundamentally flawed and unscientific. And, as I said, it doesn't necessarily prove that it was the motivation of the attack, and the fact that it was Sikh's suggests that it likely wasn't.
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until he has striven to face it squarely on its merits." - HW Steed
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