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Religions Role in Global Conflict
Replies: 9Last Post Dec. 21, 2005 6:05pm by obvious child
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From the time of the Crusades in the Middle Ages, religion has often been used as the fueling fire in global conflict.  Most major religions follow doctrines of peace, however in the last fifteen years, religion has been connected to violence almost everywhere.  Take into account thought that most of these problems are not religions but fundamentalist ideologies.  However, is it truly religion that is encouraging this conflict?  Many times socio-economic deprivations can provide fertile breeding grounds for the growth of militant groups.  What should be done in regions of the world where religion has played a major role in violence?  Should attempts be made to secularize the public and redirect religious motivations?  Should ciolent representatives of religion be repressed?  All thoughts appreciated!  

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It apears to me that some of the intellectuals here are unconcerned be such issues and that no one dares voice there own opinion... Silence is the resolute evil that none of you can seem to conquer.  

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because since nobody replies in twenty minutes you are led to assume to everybody is too scared to voice their opinion.

It's a Saturday night. People have lives.

To the topic, I think that the ideas of love thy neighbor and peace should be stressed, and try and stem violence. Since it appears to be a religious problem, I would think that the religious leaders could do more to promote anti-violence in these religious "hot-spots".

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Obviously, religion is not the only cause of conflict, but it is a major one. Religion is an outlet for frustration, so yes, some of the conflicts that occured would still have happened. But would they have been as big? Would ordinary men really have fought for the interests of an elite few if they weren't being fed lies?

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Unfortunatly, as much as people try, you can't change human nature. Religion is often the direct cause of violence, but that's not to say the friction between people wouldn't exist. Humans need someone to hate, it's just the way we work. The way to try and put a stop to the violence is not to secularise but to educate.

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This summer I visited Istanbul and went inside the famous Sultan Ahmet mosque.  I felt so peaceful and safe, the feeling was quite sublime.  And then it occurred to me (up until then I had regarded religion as an unnecessary evil) that religion in essence is a beautiful thing.  It is too utopic, too pure and too idealistic to be applied to real life.  When applied to real life, religion gets butchered, no matter how learned and intellectual the interpreter is.

Religion is also a dangerous thing because any lunatic can get hold of it and manipulate it into something quite twisted and dogmatic.

But there is no denying that some people truly need religion in order to cope with everyday life.  I myself need to feel spiritual now and then - so I chant and meditate.  Some people need to know that they can escape for a brief moment into a different world that is cut off from normality and reality.  Sometimes everyday life can get quite tedious and unfulfilling.  And if conventional religion provides that for people, then let them practice it - its good for them, so long as they don't preach to other people - I think thats very disrespectful.  And like somebody else said - it is the extremists that give religion a bad name.

(Edited by Flow Morphia Slow at 10:58 pm on Dec. 21, 2005)

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Religion is something at the core of a person that cannot easily be shaken. Therefore, one is willing to sacrifice everything, sometimes even the lives of innocent people, to fulfill what that person views as their ultimate purpose.

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turtle girl, calm down.

Your thread is a bit more then most people here are willing to chew on. Trying to assess the role of religion in warfare is a topic that spans thousands of years from aninistic tribal warfare to the modern extremists calls for religious combat.  

Perhaps you could narrow down your subject.

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Quote: from obvious child at 8:42 pm on Dec. 21, 2005

turtle girl, calm down.  

Your thread is a bit more then most people here are willing to chew on. Trying to assess the role of religion in warfare is a topic that spans thousands of years from aninistic tribal warfare to the modern extremists calls for religious combat.  

Perhaps you could narrow down your subject.


um... this is about as narrow as it gets... and i am quite pleased that you know what honu is but i took this topic directly from my model united nations assignment (its a school thing) so obviously they dont really want it much narrower... what are you opinons on this though....?

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That one could write a few (where few means many) dissertations upon the role of religion in warfare.

While I realize that it is now for a high school model UN and thus not needing to be in depth, any superficial answer is going to be just that, superficial.

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Religion is rarely the cause of war. Economics, land, and basic greed often always are the fundamental causes of conflict. However, religion is the tool for justifying many of such conflicts and often becomes, after the war has proceeded, the cause of continuation.

Creating wealthy societies in the world isn't going to change warfare. The US alone in the past 50 years has engaged in conflicts that would, if listed, run down the page. Britain, one of the richest in the world has a history of almost endless war.

The tool for removing religion from war is obvious: education. If soldiers and citizens are educated enough to discern the causes of the war, just or unjust, as well as the potential gain or loss, such wars may be prevented in the future.

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