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 Replies: 30 — Last Post April 18, 2006 10:18pm by Alex9999
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the dugout
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I certainly hope that there is a way that the laws of the universe allow humans (or aliens), explore it in some sense. It would be such a waste of billions of stars if there was no way to see them. I don't think the universe would be that harsh. I'm pretty confident there are ways to travel faster than light... even as they suggest in the article, enter a dimension where the speed of light is much faster therefore you go faster without actually braking it.
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FlashBang23
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I think the concept is extremely intruiging. An actual magnetic powered engine capable of propelling a space craft into orbit and travelling at such speeds is still at least 50 years away IMO. But I would not be surprised if they are soon able to build anti gravity device with 25+ tesla capabilities that does not require massive amounts of power to operate.
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the dugout
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For the longest time alien enthusiasts have said that the UFO's supposedly captured at Area 51 have engines that are based on some sort of anti-gravity magnetic field engine.
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The Samsoniteman
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Quote: from Blackadder at 9:03 pm on Jan. 13, 2006
 Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 4:53 pm on Jan. 12, 2006
But it's counter productive to dismiss theories as fiction when more tests need to be carried out. How about we think of it as interestingly complex, which is nice. 
why is it counter productive? Tests required to prove the theory.....oh look! technology isn't suffice to make the test conclusion - it will be a while before the theory can be proven... therefore, from my perspective, things like this should simply be considered sci-fi...... when it is tested, everything is different of course.
Because all of science, especially weird shit like physics, either sounds bizarre or impossible or just too weird to be true. This is a dangerous approach for scientists to take. Keeping an open mind is what science is all about.
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Blackadder
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Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 2:46 pm on Jan. 15, 2006
Quote: from Blackadder at 9:03 pm on Jan. 13, 2006
Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 4:53 pm on Jan. 12, 2006
But it's counter productive to dismiss theories as fiction when more tests need to be carried out. How about we think of it as interestingly complex, which is nice.
why is it counter productive? Tests required to prove the theory.....oh look! technology isn't suffice to make the test conclusion - it will be a while before the theory can be proven... therefore, from my perspective, things like this should simply be considered sci-fi...... when it is tested, everything is different of course.
Because all of science, especially weird shit like physics, either sounds bizarre or impossible or just too weird to be true. This is a dangerous approach for scientists to take. Keeping an open mind is what science is all about.
No, Science has nothing to do with keeping an open mind, 'open mindedness' is the territory of a philosopher. If it were about "Open mind" then alcemeny would have a sudden revival, and 'inteligent design' would be considered, well, "science" Science shuns theories that are untestable or unproveable, and will merely tollerate the 'plausible' - the only reason this thoery has got so far is because the same guy seems to have devised a very good method for something else (making his work seem a lot more credable- if it wasn't for that this would be crackpot sci-fi at best. )
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Indigo
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I’m really glad to see an article that gets people interested and excited in physics, but the big disappointment in hyperplane theory is just how useless it really is for travel on a scale humans are capable of. Travel by hyperplane (which is science-talk for 'extra dimension', and not 'plane' as in airplane) makes for quicker trips by using more direct routes. Straighter than straight, if that makes sense. The shortest distance between two points is still a straight line, but that straight line is shorter in the hyperplane than it is in normal space. However, even on a theoretical trip to the absolute opposite end of the universe, traveling through the hyperplane would still only cut off a little more than a third of your travel distance. And the shorter the trip, the smaller the percentage of saved distance becomes. A trip from Earth to the nearest star is such a short journey, relative to a trip across the entire universe, that the distance saved would be practically nothing. Now the good news is that there's an idea for overcoming this setback by taking advantage of multiple hyperplanes. So while your spaceship was already traveling in the hyperplane, you'd find a way to move into a dimension beneath that one, or even into further and further dimensions, each one providing an ever-shorter trip. But because even the first hyperplane cannot be detected directly, only by analyzing distance discrepancies, there aren't even any theories as to how we could sense or utilize any hyper-hyperplanes.
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spriteling
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I think it's a shame that more physicists aren't looking into Heim's work, and trying to understand it. It seems to be very promising, if only we could understand it. While experimentation to prove or disprove his theory may not be possible at the moment, we shouldn't discard or forget about this theory.
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degen
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The first time we try something like this, it's going to be a disaster. The first airplane was a wreck, and the first space shuttles didn't go too smoothly. It'll take a lot of testing before we get it right.
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Indigo, the claim on this article is that in hyperspace (or hyperplane as you call it), the speed of light is several times faster than in our dimension, thus allowing objects to move much faster without breaking the laws of physics.
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