Look at this graph:

The more racially diverse a community is, the less people trust other races, hence "Racism"
The only community that has near 100% trust in other races (hence no "Racism") is the most racially uniform community, rural South Dakota.

Discuss this important finding, and how we should go about ending "Racism" since we have now learned that integration is the cause of it!


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"The Jewish problem is one of the greatest problems in the world, and
no man, be he writer, politician or diplomatist, can be considered mature
until he has striven to face it squarely on its merits." - HW Steed

And I think it's a lot easier to say "I'm not racist" if you've never had to prove it by interacting with a different race on a regular basis.

Also, link only works if you're logged into Goggle and I don't have an account.

Post edited at 12:39 am on June 29, 2012 by JennyColada

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Yes! One graph! Amazing! Congrats at finding the answer. Not biased at all I bet.  

And I think it's a lot easier to say "I'm not racist" if you've never had to prove it by interacting with a different race on a regular basis.  

Also, link only works if you're logged into Goggle and I don't have an account.

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It was a lavishly funded study with over 30,000 participants by a well known scientist BTW, and it basically corresponds to everything we know.

Other findings that racial diversity cause:

- Less confidence in local government, leaders, and news
- Less political efficacy/confidence
- Less likelihood to vote
- More protests and social reform
- Less expectation of cooperation in dilemmas (= less confidence in community cohesiveness)
- Less contributions to the community
- Less close friends
- Less giving to charity and volunteering
- Lower perceived happiness
- Lower perceived quality of life
- More time indoors watching TV
- More dependence on TV for entertainment
- Lowered trust in the community
- Lowered altruism
- More ethnic-based cohesion (aka, more "Racism")

Post edited at 12:42 am on June 29, 2012 by kidd rune

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"The Jewish problem is one of the greatest problems in the world, and
no man, be he writer, politician or diplomatist, can be considered mature
until he has striven to face it squarely on its merits." - HW Steed

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Yes! One graph! Amazing! Congrats at finding the answer. Not biased at all I bet.

And I think it's a lot easier to say "I'm not racist" if you've never had to prove it by interacting with a different race on a regular basis.

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I don't understand the second part of your response - KR's chart is clearly about trust in other races rather than saying I'm not racist.  The general point being that the more ethnically homogenous a community is, the more likely it is to trust different races, while the more diverse it is, the less likely it is.  And from what I've personally experienced and read about the issue, the correlation seems to be accurate enough.

Of course, correlation =/= causation, and that would be my biggest criticism of the point implicitly made by the OP.  Distrust in other ethnic groups can be caused by things other than integration itself - fact is, the more ethnically diverse urban environments also tend to be the larger ones.  People crammed tightly in dense cities may well be more likely to have issues with each other than people in smaller cities with more room, regardless of race (though they may attribute many of the issues to race, hence the trust factor).  The larger cities also seem to attract bigger and poorer slums than the smaller ones on the right half of that chart, and the issues of poverty associated with many of those can lead to a lot of that tension, much of which may get expressed through race.

I'm not actively posing one argument over the other though, but I am trying to point out that the issue may be more than just simply integration and it's worth exploring.

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Unfortunately, it is unfeasible for society to work that way (because not only would it require large amounts of infrastructure to actually understand each person and their personalities; it would also require each individual to understand and be aware of their emotions and the causes of each).

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Of course reposting the same list over and over in every race related thread must make it true...

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Quote: from JennyColada at 12:36 am on June 29, 2012

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Yes! One graph! Amazing! Congrats at finding the answer. Not biased at all I bet.  

 And I think it's a lot easier to say "I'm not racist" if you've never had to prove it by interacting with a different race on a regular basis.

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I don't understand the second part of your response - KR's chart is clearly about trust in other races rather than saying I'm not racist. The general point being that the more ethnically homogenous a community is, the more likely it is to trust different races, while the more diverse it is, the less likely it is. And from what I've personally experienced and read about the issue, the correlation seems to be accurate enough.

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It's really easy to trust someone when you never have to talk to them.

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Without reading the 38 page report, I think that if an area has a large amount of racism, I'd venture to guess that the answer isn't to simply omit all but one race from the area, but rather to deal with WHY they are feeling racist towards these people and having those negative emotions, and then take it from there.

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Unfortunately, it is unfeasible for society to work that way (because not only would it require large amounts of infrastructure to actually understand each person and their personalities; it would also require each individual to understand and be aware of their emotions and the causes of each).

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It's really easy to trust someone when you never have to talk to them.

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Quote: from JennyColada at 3:45 am on June 29, 2012

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Without reading the 38 page report, I think that if an area has a large amount of racism, I'd venture to guess that the answer isn't to simply omit all but one race from the area, but rather to deal with WHY they are feeling racist towards these people and having those negative emotions, and then take it from there.

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So we should create problems just so we can fix them?
Doesn't make any sense. This racial diversity was a mistake in the first place and we're still paying for it.

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Quote: from JennyColada at 3:48 am on June 29, 2012

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It's really easy to trust someone when you never have to talk to them.

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Not really, I don't trust anyone I've never met. The thing is these people were never subjected to the experience of being in an ethnically diverse place, thus they never had a reason to outwardly distrust other races.

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I don't think that sheltering people so that they do not garner negative experiences is really the answer. You could also go on to try to shield women from men, rich people from poor, blondes from brunettes, or a myriad of other things.

Yes, when people focus on negative experiences it can certainly poorly effect their views of other people or the world as a whole (I mean, that's why so many people seem anti-government, because they feel like it's "done them wrong").

But, again, I don't think that the answer is to shield people. I also don't think that it's to force people against their world into facing what they fear without preparing them (or the rest of society) for those consequences.

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Of course, correlation =/= causation, and that would be my biggest criticism of the point implicitly made by the OP. Distrust in other ethnic groups can be caused by things other than integration itself - fact is, the more ethnically diverse urban environments also tend to be the larger ones. People crammed tightly in dense cities may well be more likely to have issues with each other than people in smaller cities with more room, regardless of race (though they may attribute many of the issues to race, hence the trust factor). The larger cities also seem to attract bigger and poorer slums than the smaller ones on the right half of that chart, and the issues of poverty associated with many of those can lead to a lot of that tension, much of which may get expressed through race.

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These first two methodological objections can be dealt with most
efficiently in the context of multivariate analysis. In our 'standard model' we
have included simultaneously controls at both the individual and the census
tract level for:
Age
Ethnicity
Education
Affluence/poverty
Language
Residential mobility
Citizenship
Commuting time
Homeownership
In addition, we control for region of the country; the respondent's gender, financial satisfaction and work hours; the population density and the Gini index of income inequality in his or her census tract; and two measures of the crime rate in the respondent's county.

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It really seems like racial diversity by itself is a prime factor in this lack of racial trust.

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"The Jewish problem is one of the greatest problems in the world, and
no man, be he writer, politician or diplomatist, can be considered mature
until he has striven to face it squarely on its merits." - HW Steed

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You are one person. I, as well, do not relate to most of the studies that you post, but I try not to use my few personal examples to refute what you post.

I don't think that sheltering people so that they do not garner negative experiences is really the answer. You could also go on to try to shield women from men, rich people from poor, blondes from brunettes, or a myriad of other things.

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Yes, when people focus on negative experiences it can certainly poorly effect their views of other people or the world as a whole (I mean, that's why so many people seem anti-government, because they feel like it's "done them wrong").

But, again, I don't think that the answer is to shield people. I also don't think that it's to force people against their world into facing what they fear without preparing them (or the rest of society) for those consequences.

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