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Quote: from Kaijuu at 11:13 am on June 21, 2012
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I don't see why you are celebrating after 5 years but ok
My God do you just keep getting stupider? 
You're the stupid one here.
How? When facing an addiction every day is worth celebrating over. Why do you think AA and NA give out 5, 10, 15, 20+ year chips? Because they are pretty? No. Because getting over an addiction is very tough, and the more time passes the prouder you should be. It doesn't matter if you've been clean a week or a decade.
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Quote: from iamironman at 9:41 am on June 21, 2012
Quote: from Kaijuu at 11:13 am on June 21, 2012
Quote: from iamironman at 1:53 am on June 21, 2012
Quote: from Kaijuu at 3:49 pm on June 20, 2012
I don't see why you are celebrating after 5 years but ok
My God do you just keep getting stupider? 
You're the stupid one here.
How? When facing an addiction every day is worth celebrating over. Why do you think AA and NA give out 5, 10, 15, 20+ year chips? Because they are pretty? No. Because getting over an addiction is very tough, and the more time passes the prouder you should be. It doesn't matter if you've been clean a week or a decade. 
Because you feel the need to call people stupid just because they don't share your opinion and assume I'm stupid even though you don't know me at all, just what you assume about me from a forum. And then you're an ass to me because I don't see it as something to celebrate but its cool? That's stupid. I don't care what AA and NA does. I don't base what I think on them. I've been addicted to things and overcome a lot but I personally don't like the idea of looking back on those things. I don't think that a period of time when you fucked up your life deserves an anniversary. Weddings, getting a great job, moving to a great city, birthdays, adoptions, POSITIVE THINGS are what I feel should be remembered year after year. Even if its in a 'look how far I've come' sort of thing its still not worthy of an aniversery in my eyes because instead of ' I did such an amazing thing in my life' its 'I put myself in the shitter and crawled out of it and I'm great now' then you're left thinking about how shit your life was no matter if you want to or not. I think if you really want to do well and have a good life then you should move on and it shouldn't be something that's thought about all the time. Its been 4 years since I last cut myself, 10 months since I was homeless 11 months since I did cocaine,and 6 months since I did acid, and in 5 years I will hopefully forgotten all about it because its not worth thinking about because I have improved my life and gotten better mentally. I have a different view of how people should go on with life after addiction/fucking up their lives and its no less valid than anyone elses so deal with it and move on. Its not like you can ever completely forget about it anyway so if the situation arises in which you would be tempted to go back to what you were doing you would remember it. But it doesn't have to be something you force yourself to remember year after year because of the date. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.
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I commend you on overcoming your addictions, first off. If you know anything about addictions then you know everyone handles it and sobriety well. Some people can just stop, stop talking about it, thinking about it, everything. Just repress it. Some people need help, some people need rehab, some people can do it with friends and family, everyone is different. Maybe this is how the OP finds the best way to handle it. I have gone through some shit myself. I'm not going to get into what it was openly here. But, one way for me to help out with it is by talking about it. Having it on your mind helps sometimes. And with any addiction there is always a chance of relapse. That's why you'll see people relapse into drugs and alcohol 20+ years after they became sober. Opinions aside, you have to admit being clean from heroin for five years is pretty damn impressive. You can't pretend an addiction didn't happen. It isn't healthy to take such a large time of your life and completely repress it into nothingness.
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The funny thing is that it IS celebrating something positive... it's celebrating the anniversary of when I took the step to change my life, not celebrating the anniversary of when I "fucked up." It's a way for me to step back a moment and say, "hey. Look how far I've come." Sure, it was a position I originally put myself into. You won't here me preaching about helplessness and disease. However, I took the initiative to dig myself out of that hole I dug and tell myself that I'm better than that. Sure, people achieve great things without overcoming addiction, and they should be proud of themselves, too. I'm not saying that I'm special, or better or worse than anyone. I wasn't looking for pity. It's just a good day in my life.
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Quote: from iamironman at 10:23 am on June 21, 2012
I commend you on overcoming your addictions, first off. If you know anything about addictions then you know everyone handles it and sobriety well. Some people can just stop, stop talking about it, thinking about it, everything. Just repress it. Some people need help, some people need rehab, some people can do it with friends and family, everyone is different. Maybe this is how the OP finds the best way to handle it. I have gone through some shit myself. I'm not going to get into what it was openly here. But, one way for me to help out with it is by talking about it. Having it on your mind helps sometimes. And with any addiction there is always a chance of relapse. That's why you'll see people relapse into drugs and alcohol 20+ years after they became sober. Opinions aside, you have to admit being clean from heroin for five years is pretty damn impressive. You can't pretend an addiction didn't happen. It isn't healthy to take such a large time of your life and completely repress it into nothingness. 
I don't see it as impressive. I did a shitload of cocaine and said 'I'm not going to do this anymore' and haven't and its not been even a year because I know its bad for me and there's no reason for me to be doing something so insanely horrible. Its been 5 years for them. And 5 years of not doing something that's god awful for you and drains you of funds and had you wind up being homeless isn't impressive to me. Because you can look back on it and think 'I never want to be in that state again' and say no to it if you were ever asked to do it again. Especially since after 5 years its out of your system and you don't remember the feeling as vividly as you did a week after you decided to drop it. I may have been somewhat impressed if it had been a month and they were a recovering addict in a place where its EVERYWHERE but after 5 years its just the norm. I don't even see them as a recovering addict. The OP is just like any normal person now know knows the horrors that can come of doing hard drugs on a regular basis. The only difference between them and the average joe is that they have their bad experience to give them further reason not to.
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Quote: from Pala at 10:59 am on June 21, 2012
The funny thing is that it IS celebrating something positive... it's celebrating the anniversary of when I took the step to change my life, not celebrating the anniversary of when I "fucked up." It's a way for me to step back a moment and say, "hey. Look how far I've come." Sure, it was a position I originally put myself into. You won't here me preaching about helplessness and disease. However, I took the initiative to dig myself out of that hole I dug and tell myself that I'm better than that. Sure, people achieve great things without overcoming addiction, and they should be proud of themselves, too. I'm not saying that I'm special, or better or worse than anyone. I wasn't looking for pity. It's just a good day in my life.
And while I don't see it as a reason to celebrate, I am glad you are happy. And I'm glad you are not preaching.
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Good for you that you just said "I'm not going to do this anymore" and got over it, but for a lot of people it isn't that way at all. Heroin is a tough drug to get off, and an easy drug to get back on. Being sober from it is a serious accomplishment. Why on Earth wouldn't you want to celebrate what is a huge turning point in your life?
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Quote: from iamironman at 11:17 am on June 21, 2012
Good for you that you just said "I'm not going to do this anymore" and got over it, but for a lot of people it isn't that way at all. Heroin is a tough drug to get off, and an easy drug to get back on. Being sober from it is a serious accomplishment. Why on Earth wouldn't you want to celebrate what is a huge turning point in your life?
Because of the reasons I previously stated. I just don't see the need to celebrate having a good and normal life that I could have had all alone had I not fucked up. I see it as something to take as a lesson and move on.
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Hun, ignore the haters in this topic. They don't know what an achievement is. Excellent, excellent, excellent job, keep it up, and God Bless You. :)
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Quote: from Cosmo Brown at 5:47 pm on June 21, 2012
Hun, ignore the haters in this topic. They don't know what an achievement is. Excellent, excellent, excellent job, keep it up, and God Bless You. :)
Oh so I have to agree or be a hater? Typical for you to think things are so black and white.
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well done and congrats
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Quote: from Kaijuu at 5:20 am on June 22, 2012
Quote: from Cosmo Brown at 5:47 pm on June 21, 2012
Hun, ignore the haters in this topic. They don't know what an achievement is. Excellent, excellent, excellent job, keep it up, and God Bless You. :)
Oh so I have to agree or be a hater? Typical for you to think things are so black and white.
No, but seeing someone proud of getting off a drug that is hard to quit and then belittling them sure is some hating.
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Quote: from iamironman at 1:37 pm on June 22, 2012
Quote: from Kaijuu at 5:20 am on June 22, 2012
Quote: from Cosmo Brown at 5:47 pm on June 21, 2012
Hun, ignore the haters in this topic. They don't know what an achievement is. Excellent, excellent, excellent job, keep it up, and God Bless You. :)
Oh so I have to agree or be a hater? Typical for you to think things are so black and white.
No, but seeing someone proud of getting off a drug that is hard to quit and then belittling them sure is some hating. 
No, its not. And I'm not belittling them. The OP is probably a fine person. I can disagree with celebrating getting your life back to what it would have been if you hadn't fucked up if I want. Its just how I see it. And It has nothing to do with the OP as a person, therefore i am not belittling them or 'hating'. I feel no hate. I just disagree. The world isn't so black and white. I'm not some god awful 'hating' belittling person because I disagree with the way this situation is being handled. That's just absurd. and if you paid attention to anything at all you would see that I said i disagree but its fine, go ahead, celebrate. I just will not give someone props for something I do not believe in. I wouldn't be supporting an annual celebration for anyonewho screwed up their lives in any way. I just feel its something to get over and move on. i don't care if they used to smoke, do drugs, drink, steal, rape, kidnapp, verbally abuse, spread aids. I dont care! She could have said: Its been years since I had a soda, I used to drink 28 sodas a day and was so morbidly obese i couldn't leave my room and I stopped and now I've been a normal weight for 5 years congradulate me! No. Its been 5 years. I would have then but its been 5 years or she could have said: Its been 5 years since I had an abortion. I used to get pregnant so i wouldn't have to take bc and I aborted unti l I ran out of money and was homeless. i was addicted to abortions (the meds they put you on for pain) but now I am better and it has been 5 years of no abortions. Congradulate me!! NO. Its been 5 years and its really not worth celebrating since you would have been fine if you had not put yourself in that situation neither of those responses would be decribed as 'hating' Hell if she had posted the first you guys would have been confused as to why she was posting about it randomly 5 years later and the second would have had 4 pages of raging at her. But because the person was on drugs were are programmed to say congrats even 5 years later.
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