It's without a doubt that the more attractive you are, the better people think of you, and the more likely it is that they'll treat you better. Also, the better looking you are, and more friendly looking, the more likely it is they'll want to "get on your good side" and connect with you.

It sucks being on the other end, I've noticed that I'm treated differently when I wear hijab compared to when I don't. It's not a huge difference, but it makes a difference long term.
It's frustrating, because I also feel/act differently when I wear it compared to when I don't.

When I don't wear it, I feel like people view me as being more "like them". When I do, it's like I'm viewed as an outsider or someone who's radically different from them.
People makes lots of assumptions about a person who wears it.

Considering I'm black, I'm viewed radically different when don't wear it compared to when I do, and people can't tell what ethnicity I am.

In a way, I guess you could say that I feel...robbed of being treated "appropriately". I think it's unfair the assumptions that were made of me, and how much longer it takes for others to connect with me, and want to get to know me.

Do you think of women who wear hijab rather differently from just an average woman?
Does the appearance of a person affect how you want to interact with, and connect with them?


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It's a natural human tendency to not trust an out-group, mainly based on genetics. Collectively, the existence of Muslim people in some Western countries is more of a bad thing than a good thing. Collectively, they aim for their own personal interests and further lower the quality of life in the country. It is completely foreign to human evolutionary history to trust out-groups and treat them the same as in-groups. This is called dual morality and it persists in every intelligent species.

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To be blunt, yes. From my experiences with commercial cities like Miami and Los Angeles, it's hard to get anywhere if you don't follow a certain image. We could blame media and bullshit sloganeering but I do feel like the people have control for it as well.I know for a fact I won't talk to people if they don't look or dress good and the same can be applied to a LOT of people I know.

It's part of our generation. Visual appeal, that is.

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The way I like to see women is wearing pants (jeans), wearing clothes that cover up but are loose. You know, for when you want some quick action. a loose shirt, you know.  
And with their hair out/down.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 8:02 pm on June 19, 2012

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It's a natural human tendency to not trust an out-group, mainly based on genetics. Collectively, the existence of Muslim people in some Western countries is more of a bad thing than a good thing. Collectively, they aim for their own personal interests and further lower the quality of life in the country. It is completely foreign to human evolutionary history to trust out-groups and treat them the same as in-groups. This is called dual morality and it persists in every intelligent species.

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But at the point we are now in our development, isn't dual morality more of an atavism than an adaptation?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 8:02 pm on June 19, 2012

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It's a natural human tendency to not trust an out-group, mainly based on genetics. Collectively, the existence of Muslim people in some Western countries is more of a bad thing than a good thing. Collectively, they aim for their own personal interests and further lower the quality of life in the country. It is completely foreign to human evolutionary history to trust out-groups and treat them the same as in-groups. This is called dual morality and it persists in every intelligent species.

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But at the point we are now in our development, isn't dual morality more of an atavism than an adaptation?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_Tat#Implications
http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/080706_flycatcher
It's called "Reciprocal altruism"
Also:
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yibtiob-support-a.html

Once again, I feel that it is a natural human tendency and to pretend that other people can stop their dual-morality just because you can is not only dangerous, but flies in the face of the interests of your in-group, which is what other people will inevitably view you as so if you deny this in-group heritage, who's to protect you from oppression or exploitation by an out-group?

Post edited at 4:38 pm on June 19, 2012 by kidd rune

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Don't know what hijab is so I'll answer the second question :3

To be blunt, yes. From my experiences with commercial cities like Miami and Los Angeles, it's hard to get anywhere if you don't follow a certain image. We could blame media and bullshit sloganeering but I do feel like the people have control for it as well.I know for a fact I won't talk to people if they don't look or dress good and the same can be applied to a LOT of people I know.

It's part of our generation. Visual appeal, that is.

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To an extent I'm the same way. I will initially respect people more based on the way they present themselves in terms of cleanliness and clothing.

It's not something I'm especially proud of, but it's something I am willing to admit I do.

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I wouldn't be interested in talking/knowing someone who wears a hijab. Our differences in opinion on religion would be too difficult to reconcile. And regardless of how strong of a Muslim the person in question is, I would still be opposed to their tacit or open confirmation and acceptance of Islam.

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Not every Muslim shares believes that you'd find different from yours, and not every Muslims wears hijab as a testification of their religion.

I wear it simply because I have to, I don't consider myself a true follower of Islam, because if I had it my way, I wouldn't be "in" it.
Yet you/others would never know that because you jump to a conclusion, and are racist because of an article of clothing.


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