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Jim Raynor
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Quote: from shakers at 8:55 pm on May 15, 2012
 i dont lie to myself. can computers and nanotechnology allow you to find a peace and understanding sitting alone in a beautiful place... no not really. im not trying to be preachy or even get deep into the ins and outs of religion because i think thats irrelevant. all i was saying is that science and some sort of spiritual or religious view can help us better understand God. if you chose not to believe in god then that is your own right and i have no intention in trying to persuade to feel otherwise. 
You can't understand something with the tools of nature if it can't be readily demonstrated to exist.
Science only deals with the natural. your god is defined as supernatural, therefore outside the realm of the universe and thus, science.
Computers and nanotechnology help us understand and work and execute projects in the real world.
Peace and understanding do not need religion. one must simply know oneself. Preferentially, being in a relationship with another human of the opposite sex allows me to discover myself and learn more about the human race in multiple ways, through social mechanics, etc.
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4:35 pm on May 15, 2012 | Joined: Sep. 2008 | Days Active: 471
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absolutely. i am in a loving and functional relationship as well and learn a lot daily about people in general. but i know that there are some things that can not be defined or explained with science. i chose to believe that there is a purpose for each person that is more than to just eat, shit, have kids, die. its a personal lifestyle decision. to each his/her own.
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Ouroborealis
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The flaw in the OP's argument is this: Evolution is not goal oriented. Things (like minerals) don't evolve in the first place. In the 2nd, things don't evolve lineally, in that one thing follows another. They evolve randomly, and either those mutations (micro-evolution) prove to be useful, and the spread throughout the species because everyone who doesn't have them died, or they prove to be neutral, and provide neither advantage or disadvantage (think having an extra finger), or they prove to be maladaptive, and the species goes extinct. Think Koala's- they eat only eucalyptus. Their whole digestive system is specifically evolved so that they can handle the toxins in it. But the tree's are now dying, and so are the Koala's, because they literally can't eat anything else. This is called an evolutionary stressor-- either some koala's in the population will start trying to eat something else and the species will survive, or they will die out with the eucalyptus trees. Evolution isn't about "usefulness". It's a process of change in response to environmental factors. For evolution to act on you, you must first be living (able to respond behaviorally and biologically to the environment) which minerals are not. God doesn't factor into this argument because god cannot be quantified by science. Saying that things change in response to their changing environment neither proves nor disproves the existence of God- and certainly isn't making any claims at trying to do so. Consider this troll question answered. End of Debate.
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