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Study reveals nonbelievers more motivated by compassion than believers
Replies: 23Last Post May 8, 2012 7:17pm by RandomThought
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Highly religious people are less motivated by compassion than are non-believers

By Yasmin Anwar, Media Relations | April 30, 2012

"Love thy neighbor" is preached from many a pulpit. But new research from the University of California, Berkeley, suggests that the highly religious are less motivated by compassion when helping a stranger than are atheists, agnostics and less religious people.

Study finds highly religious people are less motivated by compassion to show generosity than are non-believers

In three experiments, social scientists found that compassion consistently drove less religious people to be more generous. For highly religious people, however, compassion was largely unrelated to how generous they were, according to the findings which are published in the most recent online issue of the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science.

The results challenge a widespread assumption that acts of generosity and charity are largely driven by feelings of empathy and compassion, researchers said. In the study, the link between compassion and generosity was found to be stronger for those who identified as being non-religious or less religious.

"Overall, we find that for less religious people, the strength of their emotional connection to another person is critical to whether they will help that person or not," said UC Berkeley social psychologist Robb Willer, a co-author of the study. "The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns."

Compassion is defined in the study as an emotion felt when people see the suffering of others which then motivates them to help, often at a personal risk or cost.

While the study examined the link between religion, compassion and generosity, it did not directly examine the reasons for why highly religious people are less compelled by compassion to help others. However, researchers hypothesize that deeply religious people may be more strongly guided by a sense of moral obligation than their more non-religious counterparts.


http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/04/30/religionandgenerosity/

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Please read the entire study and I will make my own comments later,

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My first question is why is this significant? why does compassion have to be the motivator?

I will keep reading but that was the first thing that popped into my head.

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I believe that.
Religious people are more passionate about God than anything...and atheists don't have a "God" they have to please.

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a lot of people in my family are extremely religious and they are extremely compassionate and caring for others.

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how did they measure how much motivation compassion provided?

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Reading the study in the link provides answers as to how they measured or evaluated compassion.

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Ok this means that we Christans are more likely to do good for others even if we feel no compassion for them.
Thats good!

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I'm reading the study now, but because it's one of my biggest pet peeves I should start out by mentioning that it would be fucking great for a study that claims to address religious people in general to actually adress religious people, rather than just equivocating "religious" with "theist" and "atheist" with "not religious." Given the size and influence of world religions like Buddhism and Jainism explicitly motivated by compassion which are atheist, that's a fairly big thing to fuck up.

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Quote: from Shogun villimax at 4:00 pm on May 2, 2012

Ok this means that we Christans are more likely to do good for others even if we feel no compassion for them.
Thats good!

No, it means you Christians only do good because you think big daddy will reward you for it.
That is not good.
That is pathetic.

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Quote: from barnabas at 1:14 pm on May 2, 2012

My first question is why is this significant? why does compassion have to be the motivator?

I will keep reading but that was the first thing that popped into my head.


its the difference between being good for goodness' sake, and being good so that you will get into heaven.

how good of a person are you really, if you're only nice to get a reward?

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"The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns."
MAY??? An assumption?

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My friend made a really good point one day.  I forget what religion does this, but a certain one believes you have free will, you control your life, therefore you are your own God and should put yourself before everything and treat yourself like "God."  A lot of religions brainwash ppl.  I am compassionate only to those I am emotionally close to for the most part.  I will not go out of my way and help those who hurt me like "turning the other cheek."  I believe respect and compassion should be mutual but I do believe this world does need more compassion and kindness.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:21 pm on May 5, 2012


"The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns."
MAY??? An assumption?

No the month before June....
I havent even read the study and it is clear to me that they are referencing the fact that not 100% of religious subjects ground their generosity in emotion. Obviously not an assumption, assuming the science was good.


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Quote: from RandomThought at 5:09 am on May 6, 2012

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:21 pm on May 5, 2012


"The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns."
MAY??? An assumption?

No the month before June....
I havent even read the study and it is clear to me that they are referencing the fact that not 100% of religious subjects ground their generosity in emotion. Obviously not an assumption, assuming the science was good.


So you assume that stating something MAY be is not an assumption. And since you don't really know how the study was conducted, you again have to make an assumption about the validity of it.

What the study actually reveals is that nonbelievers have to have an emotional connection in order for their compassion to motivate them.

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Just read the experiment used, Seems like bullshit.

They showed an emotional and neutral video and saw how that effected giving. But you can be motivated by compassion with out watching a video.

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