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Ultimately nothing means anything
Replies: 15Last Post April 21, 2006 4:45am by Flow Morphia Slow
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In Six Feet Under (1st season), Brenda goes with Nate to the church for the first time,

N – Thanks for coming today. I know you must’ve found this a little…
B – Are you kidding? I loved it. All that pageantry, it’s so trippy. It’s like a Fellini movie.
N – Well, it was kind of cool being with you here in front of God and everybody.
B – You don’t really believe in God, do you?
N – Well, yeah. I mean, I don’t believe in some bearded old white man up in a cloud, but I believe in something. Some sort of undefinable creative force.
B – I think it’s just all totally random.
N – Really?
B – Yeah… We live, we die. Ultimately, nothing means anything.
N – How can you live like that?
B – I don’t know, sometimes I wake up so fucking empty I wish I’d never been born, but what choice do I have?

Discuss.

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thanks now i know never to watch that show

(Edited by TiMmMeE at 11:23 am on April 17, 2006)

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It's like nihilism for kids.

There once was a dog in a hat... Who got paid to dance like that... He danced to film some space... And kick commies in the face...

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Yes, my thoughts exactly. But isn't this livewire?

I'm writing this here because I'm sick of the verbose thing, it's pretty cool to write on this forum, but I can't stand the "you can do better than that" thing, so you better accept this post now or I freak out. Thank you.

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She is right, nothing means anything... you can't just wait for external things to give your life any meaning.  It is up to you what you make of life.  As Deepak Chopra says in his book, life is an interpretation, interpret it however you want.

I personally think that the things that give life meaning are family, friends, other people you can rely on, being compassionate and giving to those close to you.  Material possessions beyond the absolutely essential don't mean anything.  When you die, do you take any of that with you?  Does it mean anything?  Life consists of people-related memories, not memories to do with designer labels and cars.

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My beliefs are a mixture of both of those characters. If you think about it, something HAS to have started the world. It can't just have happened. Whether that something was a chemical reaction or a supernatural being, I believe that this thing can be referred to as a god, and that's my god. But I really don't believe in any mainstream religions due to the contradictions, lack of evidence, and the principles they are based upon, as well as they almost complete disregard for Science.

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I only ever watched that show for the themetune.....

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Yeah, we have the tendecie to believe that everything happens for a reason; but maybe that's just our limited mind talking. We know nothing.

One, two, three, look at me making a verbose post.

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Quote: from 666 at 8:16 am on April 12, 2006

In Six Feet Under (1st season), Brenda goes with Nate to the church for the first time,

N – Thanks for coming today. I know you must’ve found this a little…
B – Are you kidding? I loved it. All that pageantry, it’s so trippy. It’s like a Fellini movie.
N – Well, it was kind of cool being with you here in front of God and everybody.
B – You don’t really believe in God, do you?
N – Well, yeah. I mean, I don’t believe in some bearded old white man up in a cloud, but I believe in something. Some sort of undefinable creative force.
B – I think it’s just all totally random.
N – Really?
B – Yeah… We live, we die. Ultimately, nothing means anything.
N – How can you live like that?
B – I don’t know, sometimes I wake up so fucking empty I wish I’d never been born, but what choice do I have?

Discuss.


HBO has some truly exceptional series at times. This is one I would consider amongst them.

To add a bit of context: Doesn't Nate's family own a mortuary, or funeral home? If my memory is intact, I could humanistically try to empathize with his feelings.

When one is surrounded by death for so long...one of life's extreme irreversibles...with how much ease would one take on a feeling of irrefutible meaninglessness?  

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Exactly! The same way people who pass through close to death experiences tend to become more religious. And that makes me think how is possible to see things so nihilisticly, like Brenda does. We seek the meaning of life everyday (through science, art, philosophy...), and saying that life haves no meaning at all seems impossible.

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Then talk, if you are that smart. You anoy everyone, I mean, fuck off.

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you annoy me so fuck off yourself

this is boring hackneyd shit i mean you honestly believe people haven't come across this idea themselves? so what the fuck

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And who told you that I 'honestly believe people havent come across the idea', you're putting words on my mouth - good start.
I was trying to bring a discussion about religion vs nihilism, if you dont like it, dont eat it, no one forces you. Please, go exorcise your frustrations somewhere else.

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God is a sweater that you grew out of. God is an old book on Soviet politics lying in a thrift shop. God is a friend from college that you want to get rid of but can't. God is a souvenir. I read the magazines. Ninety-five percent of Americans believe in God? Bullshit. The only ones who believe in God are children or old people or those ethnic minorities, you know who I'm talking about, with their "God Loves You" vanity plates and T-shirts, their "All hail King Mosiach" billboards. Their "What would Jesus Do" key chains. Here's a dilemma for you: You're trapped in traffic behind a car with a "Honk if God Loves You" bumper sticker. Would you honk?


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