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Replies: 37Last Post Aug. 21, 2007 5:30am by Yabeechem
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I know a small population of people have rare gifts involving ESP such as telepathy or clairvoyance. Does anyone know if you can genetically pass these abilities along or is it another one of those unactivated genes?

Is it just me, or do you think that the mind is pretty amazing? Since we barely use 10% of its full capacity,  think of what wonders lie locked away and untapped.  

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Quote: from Chronos Prime at 11:58 am on April 20, 2006

I know a small population of people have rare gifts involving ESP such as telepathy or clairvoyance.
No, they don't.

Does anyone know if you can genetically pass these abilities along or is it another one of those unactivated genes?
Sure, maybe, if ESP existed. Unfortunately, it doesn't.

Is it just me, or do you think that the mind is pretty amazing? Since we barely use 10% of its full capacity,  think of what wonders lie locked away and untapped.  
Common misconception. We do in fact use all of our brains; we just don't use all of it at any given time.

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Is there any proof that ESP doesn't exist?

Could you elaborate on that last point about "we just don't use all of it at any given time."?

Thanks for the information so far sonata! :)

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Quote: from Chronos Prime at 10:49 pm on April 19, 2006

Could you elaborate on that last point about "we just don't use all of it at any given time."?

If I took a knife and removed 20% of your brain, do you honestly think you'd have a chance of it being a part of the supposed 90% that you don't use?  I mean, if we really only used 10% of our brains, you'd apparently have pretty good odds of that part remaining intact...

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Is there any proof that ESP doesn't exist?

Yes. The complete and utter lack of ESP in existence shows how it doesn't exist.

Maybe a burden of proof question should be on the test.

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Quote: from Chronos Prime at 8:49 pm on April 19, 2006

Could you elaborate on that last point about "we just don't use all of it at any given time."?

Simple. We use different parts of our brains for different things.

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Quote: from Chronos Prime at 11:49 pm on April 19, 2006

Is there any proof that ESP doesn't exist?

Prove that there are not invisible, intangible unicorns circling your head at great speeds. Oh, you can't? Certainly, then, we are bound by the laws of logic and reason to acknowledge the existance of such unicorns.

It is not the responsibility of anyone to prove the existance of that which has no evidence. What do you expect, a big folder to arrive in the mail full of blank pieces of paper which the evidence would be printed on if ESP existed?

Until evidence is provided for it, and real legitimate evidence (not some crazy guy on the internet talking about how he can read minds and bend spoons), we assume it is not real.

Science. Hurrah!


Could you elaborate on that last point about "we just don't use all of it at any given time."?

Go to sleep. Your visual cortex isn't getting much of a workout at this time. Neurons which are involved in descending pain inhibition pathways don't see much use when there isn't pain. Stuff like that.

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I have ESP. SEE! RIGHT THERE! I TRICKED ALL YOU PEOPLE INTO THINKING I HAVE ESP WITH MY ESP! So that means it does exist and now I am getting pissed because I keep getting this shitty ass reply saying i need to make my sentences more 'verbose'. WHAT THE FUCK DOES VERBOSE MEAN!?!??!

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Quote: from Chronos Prime at 9:58 pm on April 19, 2006

I know a small population of people have rare gifts involving ESP such as telepathy or clairvoyance. Does anyone know if you can genetically pass these abilities along or is it another one of those unactivated genes?  

Is it just me, or do you think that the mind is pretty amazing? Since we barely use 10% of its full capacity,  think of what wonders lie locked away and untapped.  


I can't believe that you have passed the Intellectual Test, I must say, "congratulations." However on the part that you claim there is such a thing as Esp, Clairvoyance, or that we only use of ten percent of our brains potential. I would have to disagree and ask."where's your objective proof?"

Here's something I think you might find interesting. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm


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Quote: from Thundermoon at 3:35 pm on April 20, 2006

I can't believe that you have passed the Intellectual Test, I must say, "congratulations." However on the part that you claim there is such a thing as Esp, Clairvoyance, or that we only use of ten percent of our brains potential. I would have to disagree and ask."where's your objective proof?"  

Here's something I think you might find interesting. http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm


ok one... that was pretty meen i passed the intelligence thingy too.... two it is true scientist have proved it.... we only used 10% at any given time.... none really uses more than 10% at any given time.... i believe it.... have u evr seen the movie matilda? and three i woodnt trust that snopes page..... on that page it says that a guys boner can't b told by any body part... WEN IT ACTUALLY  CAN!!!! if you were to measure the distance from your  thumb to your index finger when you make an L with it you would actually  get the size of your boner.... and that is 100% true i have tested myself


OH and thunder moon.... what do you think de ja vu is? my  theory is that it is a dream of the future.... wat are they called? prophetic dream? idk.... but honestly.... if that isn't a form of ESP please tell me what de ja vu is.....

(Edited by KentAdams at 5:58 pm on April 20, 2006)

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Quote: from KentAdams at 10:57 pm on April 20, 2006

we only used 10% at any given time

That's the point being argued against you. At any given time. There's no secret hidden depths of
the brain we don't use.

Déjà vu?


The most likely candidate for explanation, according to scientists in these fields, is that déjà vu is not an act of "precognition" or "prophecy" but is actually an anomaly of memory; it is the impression that an experience is "being recalled" which is false. This is substantiated to an extent by the fact that in most cases the sense of "recollection" at the time is strong, but any circumstances of the "previous" experience (when, where and how the earlier experience occurred) are quite uncertain. Likewise, as time passes, subjects can exhibit a strong recollection of having the "unsettling" experience of déjà vu itself, but little to no recollection of the specifics of the event(s) or circumstances they were "remembering" when they had the déjà vu experience, and in particular, this may result from an overlap between the neurological systems responsible for short-term memory (events which are perceived as being in the present) and those responsible for long-term memory (events which are perceived as being in the past).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu#Scientific_research

Funny how no clairvoyants, mediums, psychics, aliens, UFOs, wizards, witches or ghosts have provided any half decent evidence to be examined that doesn't include verbal accounts, dodgy media or laughably blatent hoaxes after thousands of years of their supposed existance.

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Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 6:07 pm on April 20, 2006

Déjà vu?  


The most likely candidate for explanation, according to scientists in these fields, is that déjà vu is not an act of "precognition" or "prophecy" but is actually an anomaly of memory; it is the impression that an experience is "being recalled" which is false. This is substantiated to an extent by the fact that in most cases the sense of "recollection" at the time is strong, but any circumstances of the "previous" experience (when, where and how the earlier experience occurred) are quite uncertain. Likewise, as time passes, subjects can exhibit a strong recollection of having the "unsettling" experience of déjà vu itself, but little to no recollection of the specifics of the event(s) or circumstances they were "remembering" when they had the déjà vu experience, and in particular, this may result from an overlap between the neurological systems responsible for short-term memory (events which are perceived as being in the present) and those responsible for long-term memory (events which are perceived as being in the past).
 



ok i remember this part quite vividly.... when my 7th birthday came around i had de ja vu of seeing that cake with the number 7 candle on it....... so accroding to ur little thiny mer bob..... i have experienced my 7th brithday twice?

o and if u r gunna say its cuz u say it on a brothers or cousins or family memebers birthday thats false cuz i am the absolut oldest in my family....  cousin and brother  and all that shit i am the  oldest

(Edited by KentAdams at 6:18 pm on April 20, 2006)

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Read again:


it is the impression that an experience is "being recalled" which is false.

It's not a memory. It's most likely a brain defect.

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Quote: from KentAdams at 4:57 pm on April 20, 2006

ok one... that was pretty meen i passed the intelligence thingy too.... two it is true scientist have proved it.... we only used 10% at any given time.... none really uses more than 10% at any given time.... i believe it.... have u evr seen the movie matilda? and three i woodnt trust that snopes page..... on that page it says that a guys boner can't b told by any body part... WEN IT ACTUALLY  CAN!!!! if you were to measure the distance from your  thumb to your index finger when you make an L with it you would actually  get the size of your boner.... and that is 100% true i have tested myself


OH and thunder moon.... what do you think de ja vu is? my  theory is that it is a dream of the future.... wat are they called? prophetic dream? idk.... but honestly.... if that isn't a form of ESP please tell me what de ja vu is.....


To be completely honest, I find it entirely unfathomable that you could possibly be serious.  "Woodn't"?  

That said, your first paragraph's second point is entirely irrelevant.  Using more of your brain at any given time still doesn't provide a mechanism by which any psychic phenomena could occur, as some mechanism for transferring data over some distance would need to exist.

Your third point about snopes honestly doesn't warrant a response, and you closing paragraph I believe has already been addressed.

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By the way, the 10% of your brain thing is a complete load of bullshit. You can say scientists have proven it, but since I hang out with scientists in that field, I'm calling you on your bullshit.

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