In  the end , we can all learn something from the Bible. Some people look at the Bible as sexist, as supporting male dominance over that of female. Some people have a biased view that God or the Bible is flawed.

Others, of course, see it the right way. As showing not only does the Bible ask men to consider equality for his wife, but responsiblity, respect, and honor  and servititude as well.

For the Christian Husband, its not about showing off to his friends, or acting cool, or being a player. No, for him, there is only a view that is outside of the trends and plans set up by society.

He is willing to be mocked by his wife, because he understands she had a hard day from work. He is willing blame himself for something that seems like the wrong doing of his wife's alone. When times are hard, he is willing to beg, not caring for how others view him,  just so that his family may have bread and a home. This sets him a part from the supposed male domince overlord who rules the family with an iron fist. The Christian husband looks beyond words, actions, of his wife, but to the indepth of her heart, her intentions, and most of all, her sufferings. There is no self, there is no being "the man of the house", instead he is the one who is the basement of the house. He is the foundation that carries all the burden of the family without the need to show off or be admired by anyone. It is his duty. His honor. His skills. His choice. And his God... that gives him such strength.

He is truly the "Cinderilla Man"

Pure admiration or plain stupidity, you be the judge.

yes a husband is supposed to be willing to die for his wife, but a wife is to serve him regardless...according to biblical standards a womans job is to make her husband happy. to serve him, and to raise children....

if both parties are fulfilling thier roles, it is the best possible arrangement.....

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Do not abandon yourselves to despair.
We are the Easter people and hallelujah is our song.

Pope John Paul II

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you are totally missing the point of these passages..

yes a husband is supposed to be willing to die for his wife, but a wife is to serve him regardless...according to biblical standards a womans job is to make her husband happy. to serve him, and to raise children....

if both parties are fulfilling thier roles, it is the best possible arrangement.....

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I question whether a woman is to serve her husband "regardless."

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Quote: from barnabas at 3:53 pm on Mar. 29, 2006

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you are totally missing the point of these passages..  

 yes a husband is supposed to be willing to die for his wife, but a wife is to serve him regardless...according to biblical standards a womans job is to make her husband happy. to serve him, and to raise children....  

 if both parties are fulfilling thier roles, it is the best possible arrangement.....  

 

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I question whether a woman is to serve her husband "regardless."

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One imagines that, ideally, each partner is to be loyal to their oaths regardless of the other partner's fidelity. Two wrongs, they are not making the right.

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

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you are totally missing the point of these passages..

yes a husband is supposed to be willing to die for his wife, but a wife is to serve him regardless...according to biblical standards a womans job is to make her husband happy. to serve him, and to raise children....

if both parties are fulfilling thier roles, it is the best possible arrangement.....

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Thats odd, from the statements I found and had studied, the notion is that the Husband should serve the wife.  Not just die for her. That is my opposition.

Furthermore, I am not sure where you got the idea that the Bible supports woman as only good for raising kids...or serve their husbands WITHOUT THEIR HUSBANDS SERVING THEM.

I mean, I can agree if both sides are to serve each other. But listen to this little Christian joke that my proff gave us

"There is a story of a man who died and went to heaven to find two signs above two different lines. One sign said: "ALL THOSE MEN WHO HAVE BEEN DOMINATED BY THEIR WIVES, STAND HERE." That line of men seemed to stretch off through the clouds into infinity.

The second sign read: "ALL THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN DOMINATED BY THEIR WIVES, STAND HERE." Underneath the sign stood one man.

He went over to the man, grabbed his arm and said, "What's the secret, how did you do it? That other line has millions of men and you are the only one standing in this line."

The man looked around with a puzzled expression and said, "Why, I am not sure I know. My wife just told me to stand here."

what are these CHristians gonna tell me next? That man should not have sex until marriage???

Let me ask you Christian man something, if you do have sex with her before marriage, are you obligated to take care of her? Hahahahahahaa.

So if your gf came up to you and said, " lets do it" You ll say, " no, I want to respect you and value you, so I want to save the first time after we marry...?"
Let me ask you something, are Christian man really that cheesy?

I guess you're cursed, cause Christian man are taught only to have sex with one person...one person..in your entire life time.... one woman!!!!
hahahahhaahahahah

(Edited by xxsupermanxx2000 at 5:10 pm on Mar. 29, 2006)

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And, you see, the Christian men who are "really that cheesy" are the ones who actually don't get arrested for assault and battery.  

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Did you see my joke. Christian man allow themselves to be dominated by woman!!!

WOMAN!!!! Hahahahaa. They are dominated by their wives.

Is this what are in the heads of you Christian man?? Serve your wife. Serve your God. Serve your people. Forget yourself. FOolish!!!!!

First, you attempt to pass off a joke that undoubtedly applied originally to men as a whole as some sort of anecdotal evidence for your position, despite the great likelihood that it was merely retooled from that original form I mentioned to serve this particular argument.

Next, you seem to be hung up on some perceived inferiority of women that colors everything you say. Having any sort of responsibility towards a female seems anathema to you merely because you consider yourself a vastly superior being.

You take offense at the notion that in the traditional Christian view of family in which the man is the head of a household there is also the aspect that along with that power, that authority, there is a responsibility towards those over which the power or authority is held.

Your inclusion of poorly spelled laughter to bolster your own position by implying that the alternative to your poorly founded and generally shitty belief system is so untenable as to inspire laughter at the thought that someone would try to espouse it merely damages your perceived opinion the objective observer.

You also deride the concept of sacrifice in Christian lifestyle, as well as the concept of chastity, without considering the fullness of Christian theology that explains and supports the beliefs and practices of a Christian much as the butresses of a basilica support the inner structure.

In short, you're a silly little thing not worth the energy it takes to parse your assertions.

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

What are you talking about. Did you not read. It says right there, that the Christian man is to serve the woman. Every descision he makes is for the best of the family, for his wife, for his children, but never for himself. That isnt authoirty. Thats servititude.

Authority and power is telling someone to do something for you and yourself alone.

I disagree with the Christian ideal of the role of the husband. IF You agree, good for you with Christian ideals, then good for you.!!!

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What are you talking about. Did you not read. It says right there, that the Christian man is to serve the woman.

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Do you mean the joke you posted, which as jokes go is only a tad funny, or the verse you occasionally throw up?

You are either asserting that servitude cannot coexist with power and authority and are thus claiming to have found a contradiction, or you honestly believe that the single quote you have provided is the end-all be-all of Christian scripture and tradition when it comes to family. Either is goofy. The latter is obviously so, the former I will explain shortly.

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Every descision he makes is for the best of the family, for his wife, for his children, but never for himself. That isnt authoirty. Thats servititude.

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The role of an elected leader, or indeed any leader, is to serve the people over whom he presides using the power and authority he is granted by them.

Power is the ability to do.

Authority is the right to do.

The serving of one's family, or truly anything, is the reason why one does.

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Authority and power is telling someone to do something for you and yourself alone.

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I find it somewhat difficult to believe that power and authority being identified as such is contingent on the ends to which they are applied... you know, beyond whatever warped little view of the world you have.

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

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Your position here has several problems.

First, you attempt to pass off a joke that undoubtedly applied originally to men as a whole as some sort of anecdotal evidence for your position, despite the great likelihood that it was merely retooled from that original form I mentioned to serve this particular argument.

Next, you seem to be hung up on some perceived inferiority of women that colors everything you say. Having any sort of responsibility towards a female seems anathema to you merely because you consider yourself a vastly superior being.

You take offense at the notion that in the traditional Christian view of family in which the man is the head of a household there is also the aspect that along with that power, that authority, there is a responsibility towards those over which the power or authority is held.  

Your inclusion of poorly spelled laughter to bolster your own position by implying that the alternative to your poorly founded and generally shitty belief system is so untenable as to inspire laughter at the thought that someone would try to espouse it merely damages your perceived opinion the objective observer.

You also deride the concept of sacrifice in Christian lifestyle, as well as the concept of chastity, without considering the fullness of Christian theology that explains and supports the beliefs and practices of a Christian much as the butresses of a basilica support the inner structure.

In short, you're a silly little thing not worth the energy it takes to parse your assertions.

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pwnd.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

I find it somewhat difficult to believe that power and authority being identified as such is contingent on the ends to which they are applied... you know, beyond whatever warped little view of the world you have.

So my view is wraped? Well, let me tell you something missy, I dont take no for an answer

Why don't you ask the kids at Tiananmen Square
Was fashion the reason why they were there?
They disguise it, hypnotize it
Television made you buy it

I'm just sitting in my car
And waiting for my

You're scared that I will take you away from there
your dreams and your country left with no one there
Mezmerize the simple minded
Propaganda leaves you blinded

You ve been hypnotized my friend.