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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 12:04 am on April 3, 2006

Quote: from abspwnsyou at 6:16 pm on April 2, 2006

who makes dozens of accounts to spam with?
YOU DO!

Nice to see the liar is also a defender of the multispammer...

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Quote: from Power God at 12:39 am on April 3, 2006

I think cripiled white people have been treated worse over the centuries as white jews have. But thats just my opinion.


The eugenics programs of FDR and Hitler's time were pretty disgusting.  Though the Nazi had to drop most of their program due to a public blacklash against it.

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Quote: from GodsButterflyGirl at 8:05 am on April 3, 2006

Yeha its sad.  They are Gods people.  they should be treated more like royalty


Like they should be given all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates?

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Quote: from Tinaop88 at 9:15 am on April 3, 2006

Ashigaru-  oh, *yawn*  those old silly lines again, it's not just about Numbers, where the Russians killed JUST because of being Russian, Christian Stalin didn't kill Russians because of their religion or ethnicity, you are so silly.

(Edited by Tinaop88 at 6:16 am on April 3, 2006)


Christian Stalin.

Hahaha.

Religion isn't transferred genetically. You have to live it.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 9:56 am on April 3, 2006

The eugenics programs of FDR and Hitler's time were pretty disgusting.  Though the Nazi had to drop most of their program due to a public blacklash against it.
Public backlash??? What "public backlash"? You mean the one from Jews in the concentrtion camps perhaps? Or the one from the occupied country? I can't believe you use these words as though the Third Reich was some kind of nice democracy!

Backlash...I am so sure like anybody could just say "hey what you are doing is wrong" and Hitler would say "oh my bad ok let me change that"  

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 9:53 am on April 3, 2006

Nice to see the liar is also a defender of the multispammer...
Nice to see the liar is also a defender of Nazis.

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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 4:17 pm on April 3, 2006

Quote: from abspwnsyou at 9:56 am on April 3, 2006

The eugenics programs of FDR and Hitler's time were pretty disgusting.  Though the Nazi had to drop most of their program due to a public blacklash against it.
Public backlash??? What "public backlash"? You mean the one from Jews in the concentrtion camps perhaps? Or the one from the occupied country? I can't believe you use these words as though the Third Reich was some kind of nice democracy!  

Backlash...I am so sure like anybody could just say "hey what you are doing is wrong" and Hitler would say "oh my bad ok let me change that"  


Oh shut the hell up, Skater. The Nazi regime was still a government. That means if people got too damn pissed off at it, it'd be overthrown. That is what he meant.

You act like the Nazis were the incarnation of evil. They were human, dipshit. They did lots and lots of bad things, but this doesn't mean everything they did was bad.

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if you say anything other than that, you are a 'nazi supporter' like me...

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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 1:23 pm on April 3, 2006

Oh shut the hell up, Skater.[/qupote] Why don't YOU fucking shut up asshole. I wasn't talking to you, what's up you ass connected to abs?

The Nazi regime was still a government. That means if people got too damn pissed off at it, it'd be overthrown. That is what he meant.  


Overthrown???? Overthrown by who? There were many attempts made on Hitler's life. How come he survived? There were some people who opposed Nazism in Germany. They were thrown in concentration camps, executed, betrayed by their own family. Any word against the Fuhrer or the Third Reich was treason and carried a death dentence. It was a fucking dictatorship!!!  

Many people from occupied countries were plenty pissed off. Could they do anything? No.  


You act like the Nazis were the incarnation of evil.
If you ask many people who lived under Nazism all over Europe they'll tell you it was.  


They were human, dipshit. They did lots and lots of bad things, but this doesn't mean everything they did was bad.
Human? They treated entire groups of people as not human. What do I care they were human. I didn't say everthing they did was bad but fuck if I'm going to let by lies that say those guys were afraid of "backlash".    

It's funny how abs' little defenders always use the same types of insults. You guys should read from a different book from time to time.

(Edited by skaterofthefuture at 3:14 pm on April 3, 2006)

(Edited by skaterofthefuture at 3:18 pm on April 3, 2006)

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 1:35 pm on April 3, 2006

if you say anything other than that, you are a 'nazi supporter' like me...
You still didn't show you are not. In fact the more you speak the more you prove it.

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hy don't YOU fucking shut up asshole. I wasn't talking to you, what's up you ass connected to abs?

I am talking to you because you are an ignorant shitbrick that lashes out when people don't share your black and white view of the world.


Overthrown???? Overthrown by who?

How about the millions of people it represented and needed not to rise up en masse against it, possibly with the support of elements of the army? That'd suck, wouldn't it?


There were many attempts made on Hitler's life. How come he survived?

Unlucky assassins?

Assassination would do jack shit. The party itself would still be in power. They needed a more organized resistance than that.


There were some people who opposed Nazism in Germany. They were thrown in concentration camps, executed, betrayed by their own family. Any word against the Fuhrer or the Third Reich was treason and carried a death dentence. It was a fucking dictatorship!!!

Dictatorships are often overthrown when the populace and military gets fucking tired of it. The trick is getting the loyalty of enough people and soldiers.


If you ask many people who lived under Nazism all over Europe they'll tell you it was.  

If I asked Hitler, I'm sure he would have seen what he did as a pure force of good. Both your example and mine are somewhat biased and would need to be completely disregarded.


Human? They treated entire groups of people as not human. What do I care they were human. When people commit acts of genocide they forego any claim to humanity.  

That, unfortunately, does not make them inhuman. I know it would make you feel better to know that seeds of those horrors do not rest even in your own nature, but I'm sorry to say that they were, in fact, quite human. Good was done during the reign of the Nazi party as well as horrific evil.

To ignore that is a sign of being ruled by kneejerk reactions.


It's funny how abs' little defenders always use the same types of insults. You guys should read from a different book from time to time.

Once you accuse him of "spamming with multiple accounts" you lose all credibility. He has been present from nearly the beginning of this site as various names, but there has always been a very clear transition from one to the other.

The reason for this being that the previous name was banned, so he created a new one.

I defend abs for the same reason I defend Islam, attack some Christians, defend other Christians, attack people who have no conception of science, and so on.

I can't stand ignorance, and I don't give too much of a shit where it comes from.


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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 11:22 pm on April 2, 2006

Quote: from Power God at 10:39 pm on April 2, 2006

I think cripiled white people have been treated worse over the centuries as white jews have. But thats just my opinion.
You mean they have been sent to gas chambers by the millions? Of course Hitler did put handicapped people together with Jews in the oven. But I wouldn't say it was worse.

I was not talking about the holocoust i was saying over all thougout the centuries. Not just WW2.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 3:35 pm on April 3, 2006

if you say anything other than that, you are a 'nazi supporter' like me...
You didn't know that if you try to correct people on their historically inaccurate beliefs about Nazis you are a nazi supporter?

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Quote: from Ashigaru at 9:15 pm on April 3, 2006

Quote: from abspwnsyou at 3:35 pm on April 3, 2006

if you say anything other than that, you are a 'nazi supporter' like me...
You didn't know that if you try to correct people on their historically inaccurate beliefs about Nazis you are a nazi supporter?

He should have corrected Skater by saying that perhaps he didn't mention often enough that Hitler is probably performing fellatio on Satan in hell right now.

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I want to clear up some historical facts. Don't insult me by calling me an anti-semetic Nazi.

The Nazi regime was not as powerful as once thought and is popularly believed. Nazi propaganda made many people believe they had one government agent for every road and block of flats. This is not the case - at best, even in major cities, they had one agent for every 10 streets.

In the 1920s and very early 30s the Nazi party was not in favour with the German army. Armies are the key to revolution and Hitler's relationship with his armies was good between 1933 and 1944. Had the Nazis been hated enough, they would've easily been overthrown.

Lastly, there's all the goos shit Hitler did for Germany. Driving out Jews, communists, gypsies and other such social scum from Germany, and eventually starting fun death camps for them, opened up jobs for the Germans who were allowed to keep their citizenship. Nazi ministers improved the economy, social order, political stability and military might. They managed to turn Germany around from being a non-state in 1933 to the strongest nation on the planet in 1941. That's 8 years.

Tsar Nicholas II did not do this. In fact, he did exactly the opposite. And believe me he was a LOT more popular than Hitler ever was. And he was, along with the autocracy that had lasted for 300 years, destroyed in about 11 - 14 years.

There were three things Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Lenin and the ayatollah had that Nicholas didn't were: charisma, revolutionary momentum and the support of the armies.

Revolution could've happened in Nazi Germany. Had the opponents of Nazism got their act together and shown the generals of the armies Hitler's true colours, the Nazis would've been royally fucked. Unfortunatly for them, Nazi opponents only got their act together when things started to get really bad from 1943 onwards. By this time it was far too late to stop the holocaust and Germany's eventual destruction by America.

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