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Those poor Jews
Replies: 191Last Post April 17, 2006 6:26pm by XxSacredSilencexX
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Quote: from SilverClover at 9:37 pm on April 5, 2006

Skater, from one Jew to another, you're embarassing me. You're NOT going to win if you keep trying to make abs look like he's anti Jewish. He doesn't care what you think and it just makes you lose credibility.  

Oy gevult.


I don't try to make him look that way. He just seems to me that way from all the posts I read from him. If you have a different view of him that shows he is not anti-Jewish, I am more than ready to listen.  Believe me it'd be a great relief to know I was wrong about him all along.

Oy gevalt!

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How dare I take offense to bastards who use some of the text that is the basis to my religion for genocide.

I'd also like to see where I ever claimed that there were no injusticies to those who followed Judiasm by the NSDAP, as opposed to the many times where I've pointed out that just litening to western propaganda that has come up since then is retarded.  The 6 million figure is a load of bunk and the only thing funnier than that is when some tard tried to go, oh but that is the low number it is really more like 12 million.

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I'm still wondering when I ever talked to Wolfsangel.  Then again, I doubt that it ever read any of the links that it tried to post about me.

Not to forget that I'd still like to know when J-post became an obscure source that nobody had ever heard of.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 10:00 pm on April 5, 2006

How dare I take offense to bastards who use some of the text that is the basis to my religion for genocide.
Who here actually used the Torah to justify genocide?


 The 6 million figure is a load of bunk .
The 6 million figure is not a load of bunk.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 10:04 pm on April 5, 2006

I'm still wondering when I ever talked to Wolfsangel.  Then again, I doubt that it ever read any of the links that it tried to post about me.
I sure did. I read them real well.

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=192351

That whole thread just showed everything.

In it theres somebody asking a question. A real question, Then Varg anf Wolsfangel come in and give their Nazi version. Then you come in and you talk to those guys. Theres the whole gang in there going back and forth about how jews are the cause for WWII and they had it coming and the Holocaust numbers are all made up.  

It show who you listen to. Instead of listening to the guys that spoke about the Holocaust and try to give the sources you chose to listen to the guys that said Jews made it all up. You started by saying well nazism is more than omg jews killed (and sure its more than that but thats NO reason to JUSTIFY what happened or make it sound like Jews ahad it coming). Then after you listend to those guys then you started attacking guys who were countering Varg and his pals.

You NEVER even once attacked or question what Varg or Wolfsteufel said but somebody said a little thing that was inaccurate and oh boy you went swooping on them like they was the shit of the earth. THAT is why I say you're a nazi supporter.

Until I read that thread I was just confused about you. After that it looked pretty clear where you stood.

You have yet to answer the question. Are you anti-Jew. Just so yes or no.

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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 12:18 am on April 6, 2006

And here I thought you actually had some real question about what I said. Instead all you doing is try to be his apologist or something.

Much like I'll interrupt an argument on the origin of God to attack some silly idea about astral projection or Near Death Experiences being some supernatural mumbojumbo, I have no qualms interrupt this to point out that your opinion of abs is solely colored by the fact that you've been on the wrong side of the argument against him long enough that he just plain doesn't like you, and he's exceedingly abrasive.

I presume to know why abs posts things because I've seen him post them for two years. I've seen him cover a wide range of topics and am familiar with the reason he'll post one line topics supporting some outlandish nonsense, or attacking one group to prove a point to someone who just attacked another without good reason.

Also, I've seen Wolf and Varg argue. They're just fucking racist.

Abs has a hardline stance on immigration. If that is worthy of hating him, go ahead. He also despises the zionist movement and people that support it. If you think it is wrong, despise him for that reason.

I don't really care who you do or do not dislike, I just care if you if you dislike them for really stupid reasons or not.

Stupid misconceptions bug me.

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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 7:20 am on April 6, 2006

 I have no qualms interrupt this to point out that your opinion of abs is solely colored by the fact that you've been on the wrong side of the argument against him long enough that he just plain doesn't like you, and he's exceedingly abrasive.
Well that's possible and I won't deny that.


attacking one group to prove a point to someone who just attacked another without good reason.
Do you mean to say that the only reason I see him write stuff about Jews all the time in one form or another is because he tries to attack zionism and only that?


Also, I've seen Wolf and Varg argue. They're just fucking racist.
You don't have to tell me I know that. I'm just wondering if abs is just one step away that's all.


Abs has a hardline stance on immigration.
Bah I am not too far from him on that. I just hope he doesn't hold that view because he doesn't like latinos. I've seen him bash a few latinos. Anyway I've never attacked him on that stuff. It's his problem.


I just care if you if you dislike them for really stupid reasons or not.
Well sure I agree it would really be too bad to dislike him for the wrong reason that's why I want to have it out once for all and find the truth.

I said many times I'm all ready to listen. I posted a bunch of posts and threads from him. If you take them seperate you can say well he's just a nutcase with something up his ass. What bothers me is when a lot of the things he talks about have to do with the Holocaust + Israel + Nazism + Judaism and on ALL of it he takes the view totally opposite the jewish view and of course he hates anybody who is not with him on those things.

I give an example: Das Uberdog. Well he doesn't like Israel I don't think, I mean he doesn't like what Israel does and that's ok. That's his right. But he doesn't go around telling stuff like 6 million jews lol. Its one thing to be disputing the numbers on the Holocaust. Its totally another to say the whole thing is funny - because it is NOT funny.

He can dispute it and say he has his doubts. Ok. But saying its funny or Jews cooked the book or "omg boohoo poor jews" shows that he totally lacks any respect for the people who died. It shows he got no feeling at all for the people who suffered through it all.

I mean how would a Catholic feel if I kept saying bad things about the Pope or pulling out stuff all the time about all the horrible things crusaders did or said the Catholics who were killed under Stalin had it coming because they refused to assimilate with other russians (whether it is true or not) or saying "omg boohoo poor catholics". Well you can bet that after a while it'd look like I'm always bashing Catholics and people would start asking me that and they'd be right. (and you can replace that with Protestant or Muslim or even Atheists)

So I have some right also to have my doubts about it all and confront him with it.

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I still think that it is funny how he posted up a bunch of the threads where I called out the mods who were pulling funny crap and who were sending me various threats.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 5:04 pm on April 6, 2006

I still think that it is funny how he posted up a bunch of the threads where I called out the mods who were pulling funny crap and who were sending me various threats.

It was in response to this:

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and whenever someone show you for the asss you are you write a post boohooing to the mods and looking for help everywhere
Lie.



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What I really think is funny is how you still have not yet responded to the simple question : are you anti-Jew.

I mean all it takes is yes or no...

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Hey I even have a better question for you abs: are you Jewish?

Now that's something.

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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 10:24 pm on April 6, 2006

Hey I even have a better question for you abs: are you Jewish?

Now that's something.


Uh... obviously not.


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Quote: from SilverClover at 7:29 pm on April 6, 2006

Uh... obviously not.
Hey you never know...

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