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Those poor Jews
Replies: 191Last Post April 17, 2006 6:26pm by XxSacredSilencexX
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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 5:45 pm on April 10, 2006

Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 2:34 pm on April 10, 2006

Do you ever wonder what it would be like if you were to be a member of a minority without being hyper-defensive and paranoid? Legends say that such people exist. Oh, to have such superpowers...
I don't know. You know any group like that?

I was speaking of individuals, hence the reason that everything I said was directed towards the noun "member."

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Yeah I know I reread it.

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Read those links and tell me they don't share the same view:

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=271726&start=112#postNumber114 abs

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=236880&start=168#postNumber178 abs

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=278892&start=0#postNumber7 wolfie

(Edited by skaterofthefuture at 3:02 pm on April 10, 2006)

(Edited by skaterofthefuture at 3:04 pm on April 10, 2006)

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http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=37082&start=28#postNumber39


Hitler's economic and social policies were genius, too bad he was a complete moron when it came to military tactics and lost a war that he could have easily won...

Do those "social" policies include the Holocaust and the deportation of Jews?

Here he admits "it is sad" that Jews are attacked but nowhere in this thread does he ever attack the original poster who is completely pro-nazi or admit that Hitler is in any way wrong.

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=101446&start=42

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Quote: from skaterofthefuture at 6:01 pm on April 10, 2006

Read those links and tell me they don't share the same view:

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=271726&start=112#postNumber114 abs

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=236880&start=168#postNumber178 abs

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/topic.cgi?topic=278892&start=0#postNumber7 wolfie

(Edited by skaterofthefuture at 3:02 pm on April 10, 2006)

(Edited by skaterofthefuture at 3:04 pm on April 10, 2006)


They do share the same view that Jews tend not to assimilate completely into whatever nation they reside due to a desire to maintain a perceived ethnic purity.

Abs provided things written by Jews that supported it, as well.

I don't quite see the problem. Agreeing with a person who holds Nazi views does not mean you yourself hold those same views. However, in these posts you provide you can easily see the seeds of disagreement between the two. Undoubtedly, Wolfsangel is an anti-semite.

However, abs argues that the majority of Jews are white Europeans and are not actually semitic at all.



Hitler's economic and social policies were genius, too bad he was a complete moron when it came to military tactics and lost a war that he could have easily won...

Do those "social" policies include the Holocaust and the deportation of Jews?


He is correct in the assertion that the Nazi party presides over a great number of brilliant social and economic strategies that revitalized an impoverished nation, creating the seeds of what would become a modern industrial powerhouse with a powerful infrastructure.

Seeing as how he has been known to argue that some Jews just don't assimilate into the country they live in, he wouldn't be opposed to the deportation of such people. Of course, that view isn't exclusive to Jews. Have you seen his opinions of illegal immigrants? I've noticed that one of the things he really dislikes about them is that a large number of them refuse to assimilate.

Deportation? Certainly. Genocide? A bit overboard.

But then, this is all supposition.


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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 3:51 pm on April 10, 2006

However, in these posts you provide you can easily see the seeds of disagreement between the two.
I have yet to see them tear each other apart the way abs tear apart anybody he disagrees with.


Seeing as how he has been known to argue that some Jews just don't assimilate into the country they live in, he wouldn't be opposed to the deportation of such people.  
Wow   er..ok then why is he so deadset against the "deportation" of arabs in Israel? I mean some  "arabs" don't assimilate well with Israelis either. I don't really like what happens in Israel either and I don't like that arabs get bad stuff happen to them either. Why is ok to do it to Jews and not ok to do it to Muslims? What is bad for one is bad for the other.


Deportation? Certainly. Genocide? A bit overboard.
I "like" the way you put it...You mean "Genocide is so uncivilized, tsk tsk tsk". I don't say that against you but its just so...there's not much I can say it's so weird that whole thing.

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What's that "sharing view of them not wanting to assimilate".
Well excuse them for wanting to observe their culture etc.
Do these same people with such "views" say the same on:
Italians
Chinese (China town, love it!)
Koreans
Irish
Etc.?


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I have strong doubts that you know who has any clue as to the social and economic policies carried out in Germany during the 1930s and 1940s, be it the labor divisions or the money being poured into the sciences.

I don't know if I'd go as far as deporting people who don't assimilate, though I wouldn't go out of my way to support them.  Just because I see the obvious reasons why people would support such a policy doesn't mean that I also support that policy.

The illegals are a different issue.  They broke the law and many refuse to assimilate, all while sucking up massive amounts of my tax dollars.

Funny that idiot would try to use the claim that arabs don't assimilate into Israel when they were there before the zionist invasion.

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I don't know man. If thats the way abs really think


Deportation? Certainly. Genocide? A bit overboard.

I mean its so crazy and absurd. I am like totally floored. Usually I got a retort to stuff but here it like goes beyond everything. That kind of thinking is like so beyond human feeling I'm just bewildered.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 9:56 pm on April 10, 2006

I don't know if I'd go as far as deporting people who don't assimilate, though I wouldn't go out of my way to support them.

Would you support people who deport them?


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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 9:56 pm on April 10, 2006

Funny that idiot would try to use the claim that arabs don't assimilate into Israel when they were there before the zionist invasion.
Funny that other idiot can't see that Jews living in Poland and Hungary were there before the Nazis invaded their country....

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 9:56 pm on April 10, 2006

Germany during the 1930s and 1940s, be it the labor divisions or the money being poured into the sciences.
Yeah they poured a lot of money into sterilization of Jews, experimentations on Jews, making atomic bombs, etc...The fact that they poured money into science or did a few good things does not erase all the evils they did throughout Europe. I am sorry.

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You forgot to mention how all the nice roads they built were just so spectators could get to the Jewkillatoriums more easily.

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Why is it that people act as if jews are never racist?

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Don't forget that the magnetic tape was only invented to broadcast the screams of the Jew all over Germany...

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