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Quote: from invisible at 1:05 pm on June 21, 2006

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It doesn't even exist. Supposedly, children with ADD or ADHD have trouble staying still and concentrating. My brother has ADD and our neighbor has ADHD. Both are the same age. They can sit together, quietly, for hours on end playing videogames with the utmost attention. However, if you ask them to do schoolwork, suddenly the stereo is too loud or the blender is distracting. It's a glorified excuse for not wanting to do things that don't interest them.    

(Edited by invisible at 1:06 pm on June 21, 2006)

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Damn right.  

"Possible causes? Maybe it's their diet... UHHHH... or maybe it's genetic." Bullshit. Need I remind anyone that nobody knows what causes "it?" Not only that, but THE SYMPTOMS ARE THE MOST GENERIC THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN-    
"Avoiding tasks that require a high amount of mental effort and organization, such as school projects    
Frequently losing items required to facilitate tasks or activities, such as school supplies    
Excessive distractibility    
Forgetfulness"  
Are you fucking kidding me? That's a disease? No. CANCER is a disease. ADD is bullshit.  

Again- there's not even any proof that ADHD exists. If it does exist, there's no proof as to what causes it. And there's no "cure" for this "disease." Does anyone know why? Because it's bullcrap. It's a substitute for discipline, which is worthless. If teachers were allowed to hit kids with rulers/paddles again, and if parents would get off their hippie asses and beat their kids when they fuck up, we wouldn't be having this problem.  

(Edited by Cobalt at 12:43 pm on July 5, 2006)

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You disgust me, how did you pass the intelligence test you quantum brain? What can we expect you to spout off next? Kill all the fagots? Colbalt abuse answers nothing… your entitled to your opinion as long as it harms no one else, but you just crossed an important line.

First of all ADD is real, while some cases may be misdiagnosed there truly is a “difference” in children with ADD. It is not a disease one point you managed to get right in your spouting of idiocy. ADD is simply a difference in the way a person thinks, in my opinion. Our brains are smaller when we have ADD (that is proven), and we lack sufficient neurotransmitters. Explain how this can be solved by hitting your child please Colbalt?
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AD/HD is a very complex, neurobiochemical disorder. Researchers do not know AD/HD's exact causes, as is the case with many mental and physical health conditions. Where AD/HD is concerned, there are a few individuals who do not believe AD/HD really exists. As researchers continue to learn more about AD/HD, this controversy will be put to rest. Meanwhile, scientists are making great strides in unlocking the mysteries of the brain. Recent technological advances in brain study are providing strong clues as to both the presence of AD/HD and its causes. In people with the disorder, these studies show that certain brain areas have less activity and blood flow and that certain brain structures are slightly smaller. These differences in brain activity and structure are mainly evident in the prefrontal cortex, the basal ganglia, and the cerebellum (Castellanos & Swanson, in press). These areas are known to help us inhibit behavior, sustain attention, and control mood.

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Quote: from Apotheosis at 1:37 pm on July 20, 2006

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I believe it's more a matter of the personality of the child itself than just the crappy upbringing. The right personality + the right style of crappy parenting can totally mirror ADHD symptoms. I suppose a study would be difficult to pull off, but they could instead just send ADHD kids to boot camps or something. A no-nonsense drill instructor without mercy and exceptions can totally yell the kid out of his "condition" for all the bullshit cases in a matter of months.  

That way we figure out who is actually sick and medicate the shit out of those.

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Yes… Lets medicate the shit out of people, that will solve everything! I went to a camp like that actually… and performed quite well despite the fact that I have ADD. When I fidget, I fidget, sorry if I can’t fucking stop my leg from going up and down. The camp leader told me that was unacceptable so I told him to take a Ritalin and drink five liters of Jolt cola, it achieves about the same effect that I feel every day of my life even with medication. Sending a bunch of children to boot camp was done in some kind of ABC Family show I think, and it proved that people will act how they want. Personally if I were faced with bull shit authority that told me I couldn’t fidget or something I would walk away from the boot camp regardless of what “punishment” there was for being different from the social norm. I am sorry that I have trouble focusing on a task for longer than fifteen minuets because I have already reached the conclusion that it doesn’t matter. I am sorry that I skip from math problem to math problem randomly because I realize that I have already solved it to the point that I can get the answer from there by simple arithmetic.

All in all ADD is real your entitled to your own opinions, but please don’t suggest idiotic “cures” for this “sickness” just be content.

(Edited by ranman at 2:19 am on July 23, 2006)

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For the same reason, someone with ADD can watch and pay attention to a movie, the scenes and environments are changing every few seconds, so they don't have to focus on one thing for a long period of time.

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I noticed one of you said that depression was not a real mental disorder... I have dealt with kids my age and depression and I can tell you they are not normal. I have never experienced much depression myself (a lot of anger... but never really sad) so this isn't really first hand knowledge. From what I understand when depressed there is a chemical imbalance in the brain -> please tell me how you are going to deny a chemical difference in a "normal" brain and a "depressed" brain, and not relate it to their behaviors.

As i said before Medjai is right, when we play games we zoom in our focus and perspective and constantly change from thing to thing in the game.

Just does anyone here with ADD have problems sleeping? For instance I only sleep about 3 to 5 hours a night, but I show absolutely no signs of drowsiness (except in the car for some reason...) and I am not any slower mentally. In fact the main reason I can't fall asleep is because I get to busy thinking about something and I can't make myself stop... One time I really over thought breathing... fuck I am doing it again. But anyway I over thought breathing to the point where unless I consciously thought about moving my chest and breathing in I would not breathe... It made falling asleep a little difficult... to the point where I simply didn't fall asleep for two days. (sorry if I infect anybody with that stupid thought)

... Yep thats about it... Hope it was coherent, you know I wasn't hit enough as a child according to colbalt and I have no attention span according to everyone else... so there is no way what I typed you could make sense could it?

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ranman: You may have real ADD, then. My camp proposal is to weed out morons and spoiled brats from the actually sick. And then, medicate the sick, or whatever it is you do to them. If a Ritalin doesn't do the trick, take another one.

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At the expense of the sick? Put them through hell oh but its ok because there genetic stock is inferior?

Here is a wonderful Idea lets just find the actual physical difference ADD causes in the brain and then we can see the physical evidence so there is no more speculation or debating. Oh and I take 100 mg of Ritalin a day... I prefer my heart in working order so i will refrain from taking a second

http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/2002/bnlpr030102.htm

check that link for some nice info on Ritalin

Maybe I should just go and die huh? considering I am inferior to mr. diety... I am just not as good as you. I mean by staying around and reproducing all I am doing is weakening the human race right??? Or maybe this is just inspired by lack of sleep... so many questions so many wrong answers... and so few right ones. Goodnight.

Post edited at 5:26 am on Sep. 4, 2006 by ranman

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My brother is diciplined to the full allowment of the laws here. He does not eat processed meats, or a lot of canned foods. My mother prepares all meals at home, she's a stay at home mother. But he is still crazy with the ADHD that ravages his body. We have tried everything but medication (my parents just can't afford it) so I know it's not total bullshit.

But people use it as an excuse to get their kids what they want. A little boy that goes to high school with my older little brother has ADD (no H) and his parents use it to get him on sports teams, and into good classes. This is where it is abused.

But it does exist, and it's sad that the treatments aren't more affordable for those who really need it.

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