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My neuroscience teacher mentioned today some research a friend is involved in. The man has been frantically calling everyone in relevant fields to see if anyone has experience with it.

His question, "Have you ever worked with or heard about a blind schizophrenic?" The answer: "No."

Apparently one case has been heard of. Kinda.

A woman was hospitalized for severe schizophrenia. She then suffered an accident that left her blind. Three days later, as my professor put it, "She decided to stop being schizophrenic."

Holy shit.

I have no idea what it means, but it is ridiculously fascinating.

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Schizophrenia has always fascinated me, so this research does in fact interest me a great deal.  I nearly wet myself when I read it from excitement.  If it's true that blind people cannot be schizophrenic, that could lead toa  cure for schizophrenia if they were able to find a link between waht causes someone to be blind and what causes schizophrenia.  Oh man, if you hear anything else, please update us!  This is so amazing.  I wish I was closer to that research.

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That is absolutely bizarre. It makes one wonder if schizophrenia is dependent on the environment to exist or if it has to do with something that we see or don't see. Very interesting.

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I was discussing this with someone today, and apparently people have very different views of what Schizophrenia actually is. A lot of people presume that it is a split personality disorder. It isn't so much to do with that.

In fact he was saying that Schizophrenia is a lot to do with what people are seeing. For example if they watch something on the telly they think all the characters are communicating with them etc. Or if they see someone in the street eating with say a fork they think that they are trying to kill them.

Taking this into account, it makes logical sense for someone who cannot see to be immune from these symptoms of Schizophrenia no??

(Edited by theatreminelli at 2:12 pm on Dec. 9, 2005)

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She decided?

I find it more intruiging that she had a choice in the matter than the simple idea that blind people cannot be schizophrenic.

So, did she just suddenly say: "Yeah, I don't really feel the need to do that sort of thing any more." That's bizarre, that is.

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Quote: from myystic at 10:13 am on Dec. 9, 2005

She decided?

I find it more intruiging that she had a choice in the matter than the simple idea that blind people cannot be schizophrenic.

So, did she just suddenly say: "Yeah, I don't really feel the need to do that sort of thing any more." That's bizarre, that is.


Oh, no. That's just my professor's unique way of putting things which I decided to reproduce exactly because it amused me.

As for schizophrenia being tied to sight... well, it is particularly fascinating because of how much schizophrenia encompasses. Voices in the head, flat affect, delusions of grandeur (I've always wondered what would happen if we put all the different delusional Jesus's together. Free for all or peace and love?) , and all kinds of disparate problems. All tied to sight? Intriguing indeed.

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Do you think her condition is, for lack of a better scenario, hard-wired into what she receives visually?  What is to stop her neural pathways from re-configuring to accept information from different senses, and interpretting them into her "schizophrenic personality?"  Unless there is some hard data that shows that the anamolous functions of schizophrenia happens in the visual region of her brain, I don't see how the 2 are exclusively linked.

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indeed. what of the other senses -

blind+scitz = no.


deaf + scitz =?

etc.???

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Kind of hard to be tricked into 'seeing' deamons and all kinds of wacky stuff if you are blind.  Oh look I see something, but since I'm blind, I will just disregard it as a figment of my imagination...

A few weeks ago in psych class we watched a video on a parinoid schitzo and it was fun stuff.

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I wonder if you can hallocinate when bilnd. You can certainly get that "pain" in lost limbs, so it's possible.

But if you can't, then that might be a contributing factor to why blind people don't get it at all/very much.

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Quote: from abspwnsyou at 1:16 pm on Dec. 11, 2005

Kind of hard to be tricked into 'seeing' deamons and all kinds of wacky stuff if you are blind.  Oh look I see something, but since I'm blind, I will just disregard it as a figment of my imagination...

A few weeks ago in psych class we watched a video on a parinoid schitzo and it was fun stuff.


Schizophrenia isn't "seeing demons" it's more accurately "percieveing demons."  You can lie awake, in bed, eyes closed, and i darkenss, and the things your perciecve during the day do not go away.  Only reason a schizo can go to sleep is cause of the bod's natural sleep process of shutting down sensory input.  I simply see schizophrenia as a disorder which atlers percaption by mixing subconscious thought with sensory input.

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I think it seems like specific images are linked to thoughts in their heads.

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My neuroscience teacher mentioned today some research a friend is involved in. The man has been frantically calling everyone in relevant fields to see if anyone has experience with it.
His question, "Have you ever worked with or heard about a blind schizophrenic?" The answer: "No."



Well, research has been done in the past regarding whether totally blind individuals can also suffer from schizophrenia. Check out Pubmed (if you are registered). I can't be assed finding the article on my dialup, but I distinctly remember reading that a study was done in the 1980's in a particular hospital, to determine whether anyone there who suffered from total blindness was also a schizophrenic.

They never ended finding anyone who had schizophrenia, and was totally blind. They found (I think) two patients with partial blindness who suffered from schizophrenia.

Anyway, try searching through some medical journals. You'd be surprised what people say is 'ground-breaking research' has already been researched in the past.


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However, in this case there is a new aspect. The person who became blind and ceased to be schizophrenic shortly after. Presumably that would be included, because I doubt something like that would not be followed up on.

Any researcher worth their salt goes over previous research in the topic extensively before actually beginning the research. Since this fellow is of the neurosciencey bent, I might presume that he'd look for reasons.

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