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ETA: The other thing I don't get is that your post, Tigressa, just said, in essence, "Why do people have to think about what they read?" which...wow.

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Hardly what I meant, or hardly what I said. Of course you have to think about what you read, but don't interpret it for anything other than what is meant to be said. Don't put yourself into it. Read it. Enjoy it. Move along.

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Breaking into someone's room to sniff them and watch them while they sleep and following them around when they can't see you is pretty much textbook stalking. What I don't get is why people get so irrational when folks don't kiss SMeyer's vag and say this is the best series ever.

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ER, I love your posts, but I'm hardly kissing vag, when I say it's the best series ever. I thoroughly enjoy it. So what? Is it hurting you if Stephenie has a good fan group? And, no, it's, not as Stephenie wanted it, stalking. I don't care what you THINK it is, or WANT it to be, Stephenie made it clear, that it was merely protection, in the quote, "I feel very protective of you". He doesn't sniff her. He can't help but to take in her scent. He watches her, to make sure she lives and breathes, and he follows her, because that's what she wants, that's what she needs.

Don't overexert your intelligence, and try to make the book something it's not.

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Does it hurt me if SMeyer has a rabid (and yes, I do mean "rabid") fanbase? No. Does it hurt them if they think that Edward Cullen is the ideal and let guys walk all over them because they think that's how life is supposed to be? Yes.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

No, honey, that's your viewpoint. That's not a fact. That's your disliking of the character. I, and many others of my age group, both disagree with you, highly. We don't see him as creepy, nor stalkerish, but as loving, kind, considerate, and protective, as it states, clearly in the book.

Often, I wonder if you and I are even reading the same book.

Does it hurt them if they think that Edward Cullen is the ideal and let guys walk all over them because they think that's how life is supposed to be? Yes.

Anyone who believes a fictional character represents reality, at any point, has issues. But it can't hurt to fall for a fictional character, in good fun.

And I hardly see the fanbase as 'rabid'. Faithful. Just like any other fanbase.

Read a book, enjoy a book, don't over fucking analyze a book. It's called enjoyment of literature. You don't have to pick it apart, word for word, letter for letter. Seriously.

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Let me ask you this: if a real guy broke into your house and stood in the corner watching you sleep, would you find that sexy and attractive?

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Why does that matter? I don't believe Edward is perfect. I don't want a boyfriend like Edward. I do like the way he's written, but he's not my type of guy. So, that question is irrelevant. I'm not the one claiming that's what I want in life. When I say I like 'Edward', it means I like how he's written.

I'm 21 years old. I know how to separate fictional works of art, from reality, much as you may think not.

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It's quite relevent; if it's not a quality that you'd find appealing in any other person, why is it appealing in Edward Cullen?

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I told you: It's how he's written. I'm not interested in the person of Edward, but the character of Edward. The way Stephenie writes his movements, his wordings, his accent, etc, that's what I find appealing. I said it, clearly, in my last post.

And, no, it's not relevant, b/c you're trying to make me one of the fangirls who likes the person of Edward, when I know he's not real, nor is there anyone real out there, like him, that I would ever want to come into contact with.

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I'm not. I'm just trying to see why you think this book is well-written when it so clearly isn't, as 99% of people who aren't silly teenage girls and bored housewives can see.

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So clearly isn't?

Honey, don't pull the 'my side or the highway' bullshit with me. Just b/c you don't see it as a good work of literature, does not make it so. I'm assuming you like Shakespeare. Great. I don't. I don't think that's a good work of literature. At all. Other than "Romeo and Juliet", the rest of his works, in my opinion, stink. They are horrible, and boring. I could say that it's 'clearly that way', but I know better than to pass my OPINION as fact, like you.

Prove that 99%. That is an assertion, and now the burden lay with you. But, I know you can't, b/c you're on your holier than thou pedestal, and you see yourself high and mighty, when your opinion is just one of many. Get over yourself, and move along.

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Frankly, I don't think you would know good writing if it farted in your face. There is nothing about Twilight, save for some background characterizations, that makes it anything more than a desperate housewife's wet dream. That you think that there is says a great deal about your intelligence, and it's nothing positive.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Technically, your assertion is the positive, since you seem to think that people do like it.

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I know well people do like it, and could round up many many people who do like it.

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Frankly, I don't think you would know good writing if it farted in your face.

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Would you stop with your holier than thou shit? You're not the deciding factor in what makes good writing, so, as far as I'm concerned, you can take your opinion, and shove it up your queen like ass.

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There is nothing about Twilight, save for some background characterizations, that makes it anything more than a desperate housewife's wet dream.

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Says you. Great. You don't like it. We get it. But there are some of us, many of us, that do, who are hardly 'desperate housewives'. Your ignorance astounds me.

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That you think that there is says a great deal about your intelligence, and it's nothing positive.

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That you think your opinion trumps any others make me think the same thing about your own intelligence. It shows rather the opposite of postive and bright, but dull, negative, and full of yourself.

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If it's well-written, tell me:

- what personality traits to Bella and Edward have that don't relate to each other by the end of the series?

- why is there never any question of how the books will end?

- why is the prose so purple when less flowery adjectives would have sufficed?

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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You're still acting as if I don't like it, which is hilarious, as I've said dozens of times in this thread alone that I rather adore Twilight.

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You show that you adore it, in the oddest of ways.

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The difference is that I can acknowledge that it's poorly written and like it because of that

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It's not a fact that it's poorly written, fool. That is merely your OPINION. Do you know the difference between fact and opinion? I rather think not!

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You seem deluded into thinking that it's actually something groundbreaking and well-done.

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I happen to think it is groundbreaking, and well done, but unlike your fucking ass, I know better than to pass opinion as fact. I know the difference between the two.

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If it's well-written, tell me:

- what personality traits to Bella and Edward have that don't relate to each other by the end of the series?

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Why does somethingl ike this determine the factor of 'well writtenness'? Why can't we just think it's well written, without over fucking analyzing it?

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- why is there never any question of how the books will end?

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If you find the series unpredictable, I have to question if you're reading the same thing as me, because I never knew, nor did my friends, one page from the next.

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- why is the prose so purple when less flowery adjectives would have sufficed?

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So, b/c you didn't like the words used, it's a badly written book?

Honey...for Goddess sake...you are NOT the fucking deciding factor! Your OPINION, and that's ALL it is, is just one of MANY. It's NOT a FACT...learn the difference between the two, before you EVER speak to me, on these forums, again, b/c I will not argue, childishly, with someone who is on a pedestal, claiming 'their way or the highway'.

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That was a bit like trying to convince an egg to grow hair.

You just basically admitted that the characters are flat and one-dimensional, that there's no plot and that the writing is overly flowery, and yet you still think it's well-written?

This isn't a case of overthinking anything. This is a case of COMMON SENSE.

I give up.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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That was a bit like trying to convince an egg to grow hair.

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I know. It is rather hard to understand the difference between fact and opinion, but you'll get it, one day.

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You just basically admitted that the characters are flat and one-dimensional, that there's no plot and that the writing is overly flowery, and yet you still think it's well-written?

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Perfect trolling, right there! Putting words I never said, or even thought, into my mouth and mind!

Yes, I think it's well written. But I'm only one, and I'm not leaving my opinion as fact, unlike you.

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This isn't a case of overthinking anything. This is a case of COMMON SENSE.

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So, your way or the highway, yet again, trollface?

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I give up.

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As do I. It's like trying to teach the difference between the fictional world and reality to a child. You're going to remain ignorant to the topic/aspect, and continue to assert things of opinion base nature as fact.

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