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What is your theory of evolution/creation?
Replies: 16Last Post June 29, 2008 12:05am by nigeltheoutlaw
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I think we evolved from apes, but there is evidence against it according to people at my school. What do you beleive?

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I'm all evolution. Creationism makes no sense to me, never has never will. DNA between humans and Chimps is rather astonishing.

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Quote: from The Raven at 7:33 pm on April 28, 2008

I'm all evolution. Creationism makes no sense to me, never has never will. DNA between humans and Chimps is rather astonishing.
Chimps are awesome.

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Quote: from MattJ at 4:31 pm on April 28, 2008

I think we evolved from apes, but there is evidence against it according to people at my school. What do you beleive?

I'd love to see such 'evidence.'

I'd be willing to bet points that they are either ignorant, or full of shit.

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Evolution and creation are two different things. Evolution explains how life has progressed after the initial creation but does not and cannot explain how life on earth was created in the first place. For over 50 years scientists have tried to show where the first cells came from and have failed miserably. The primordial ooze theory just doesn't add up. Many scientists claim that no such 'soup' existed since no chemical evidence of it can be found even in the oldest rock formations that bear evidence of early organic life. Also if live originated in a primordial 'soup' it should have left behind a chemical signature but nobody has found any evidence of this either.

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Quote: from The Raven at 3:33 am on April 29, 2008

I'm all evolution. Creationism makes no sense to me, never has never will. DNA between humans and Chimps is rather astonishing.

Same here. I simply cannot understand how someone can believe the creationist theory.

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Quote: from Nikki at 5:52 am on April 29, 2008

Quote: from The Raven at 3:33 am on April 29, 2008

I'm all evolution. Creationism makes no sense to me, never has never will. DNA between humans and Chimps is rather astonishing.

Same here. I simply cannot understand how someone can believe the creationist theory.


what is the creationist theory?

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Creationism is NOT a theory, it is unfounded speculation.

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=2

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.

"Creationism means that the various forms of life began abruptly through the agency of an intelligent creator with their distinctive features already intact - fish with fins and scales, birds with feathers, beaks, and wings, etc." (Biology and Creation 1986, FTE 3014-3015, pp. 2-13, 2-14)

As for abiogenesis.

We know quite a lot about abiogenesis, and, despite the lies of mcdouga, we have replicated many major parts of it.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/originoflife.html

For instance, scientists have assembled the first synthetic virus.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2122619.stm

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I believe in both. I do believe in Evolution but, as mcdouga stated above, it only shows how life has progressed, not how it started.

I don't believe in Creationism in that God clapped his hands and animals and Adam and Eve just sprung out of the Earth and la di da, humans appeared. I think that's crap.

However, I do believe that God had something to do with it. Like he was the spark that lit the firecracker that was the Big Bang, or something. Just the little nudge to get things rolling.

But I'm a believer in God and so it makes perfect sense to me, whereas others who don't believe in God might scoff and think I'm a loony. But oh well, that's what I believe.

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I believe in evolution.
The theory of how life was created was that due to the fact that there were tons of electrical storms and chemicals (that they KNOW existed), made organic molecules (they proved this in an experiment and created organic molecules.
Then they think that these organic molecules were eaten by each other and had symbiosis within them (the organelles in the cell) in order to produce the first cell.
Then that reproduced and then evolution took care of the rest.
And there we have the first cell.

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I believe that there was no beginning.

That's basically always been my belief, even before that was influenced by other things to which I was introduced.


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I am Christian. I believe that the earth was created by the hand of God. It may be unfounded, but it's my religion and it's what I was always taught.

However, as I've gotten older, I've come to believe that the earth was created in some form and humans have henceforth evolved.


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I don't believe in god -- so the answer to this question is not god -- so does anyone have any scientific ideas on the subject of what caused the entropy known as the universe? why is it that anything actually exists? why are there 11 dimensions and not nothingness. If we can figure this out, then we can learn the true connections between life forms. I personaly believe in Darwinism and the evolution theory; what else could explain the passage of HIV from primates (OK OK so it's Really PIV then) to humans?

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my friend chy came up with the idea that god had sex with monkeys, and thats how we all got here. it incorporates both ideas of creationism and evolution, because she doesnt believe in either.
its funny, but i dont agree.
i dontknow how humans came to the earth. i lean towards the creationist theory, because it just seems much more plausible, but i dont believe theres a god, so its very contradictory to me.
i dont really wanna believe any of it.

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Quote: from mcdouga at 11:30 pm on April 28, 2008

Evolution and creation are two different things. Evolution explains how life has progressed after the initial creation but does not and cannot explain how life on earth was created in the first place. For over 50 years scientists have tried to show where the first cells came from and have failed miserably. The primordial ooze theory just doesn't add up. Many scientists claim that no such 'soup' existed since no chemical evidence of it can be found even in the oldest rock formations that bear evidence of early organic life. Also if live originated in a primordial 'soup' it should have left behind a chemical signature but nobody has found any evidence of this either.
We can't know everything.  If scientists were to figure something like that out it'd be a revolutionary discovery.  However, the fact that we don't know how the first ever forms of life formed doesn't disprove in anyway the other things we've deduced about evolution, and certainly doesn't rule out some sort of logical explanation.

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