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Poll of smoking, Should people have the right to smoke
Replies: 35Last Post May 3 11:50pm by JamesBrauman
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Yes 45 78%
No 12 21%
Only in public places 0 0%
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Yes.

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Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.
The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

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If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.

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Quote: from Pardon my French at 12:14 am on May 3, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.  
 The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

*

If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.

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Best logic ever.
Nicely argued.

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Quote: from Frisky Dingo at 9:15 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 12:14 am on May 3, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.  
  The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

 

 *  

 If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.  

 *


Best logic ever.
Nicely argued.


Look at the stars! This was all part of my plan

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Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.  
 The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

 

*  

If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.  

*



American dream stands for freedom to do whatever the hell you want as long as it does not cause harm to someone, their property, or liberty. You smoking can't cause any trouble if it is in a smoking bar, or your bedroom, etc.
*As an American, America's laws are all that interest me*

Post edited at 9:17 pm on May 2, 2008 by Aimforthehead

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Quote: from Pardon my French at 10:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.  
 The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

*

If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.

*


Your brother's body != your body.

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Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:16 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.  
  The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

 

 *  

 If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.  

 *



American dream stands for freedom to do whatever the hell you want as long as it does not cause harm to someone, their property, or liberty. You smoking can't cause any trouble if it is in a smoking bar, or your bedroom, etc.

You are your own property, though, according to the initial premise.

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Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.  
 The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

*

If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.

*



Ummm... ya. You can also walk the dog.

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Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:17 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:16 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.    
   The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

 

  *  

  If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.  

  *


 
 American dream stands for freedom to do whatever the hell you want as long as it does not cause harm to someone, their property, or liberty. You smoking can't cause any trouble if it is in a smoking bar, or your bedroom, etc.

You are your own property, though, according to the initial premise.



Which is why you can do whatever the hell you want with it.....

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Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:18 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:17 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:16 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.    
    The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

   

   *    

   If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.    

   *


 
  American dream stands for freedom to do whatever the hell you want as long as it does not cause harm to someone, their property, or liberty. You smoking can't cause any trouble if it is in a smoking bar, or your bedroom, etc.

 

 You are your own property, though, according to the initial premise.



Which is why you can do whatever the hell you want with it.....

then you should put it better so that it represents exactly what you mean. this is why us smokers have our rights stripped away so often. you guys don't know how to argue

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Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:20 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:18 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:17 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:16 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.      
     The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

   

    *    

    If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.    

    *


   
   American dream stands for freedom to do whatever the hell you want as long as it does not cause harm to someone, their property, or liberty. You smoking can't cause any trouble if it is in a smoking bar, or your bedroom, etc.

 

  You are your own property, though, according to the initial premise.


 
 Which is why you can do whatever the hell you want with it.....

then you should put it better so that it represents exactly what you mean. this is why us smokers have our rights stripped away so often. you guys don't know how to argue



Not really...I explained it pretty well...as did Wilder, you were just throwing out the lame illogical anti-smoking arguments out there that bring us back to usually the first point, "my body is still MY body".

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Quote: from Pardon my French at 10:20 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:18 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:17 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Aimforthehead at 9:16 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Pardon my French at 9:14 pm on May 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 9:12 pm on May 2, 2008

My body = my body.      
     The conclusion to draw from this seems obvious to me.

   

    *    

    If I am free to do with my body as I please, then I am free to take my hands and place them around a gun and contract the muscles in my finger while the gun is aimed incidentally at my brother's head.    

    *


   
   American dream stands for freedom to do whatever the hell you want as long as it does not cause harm to someone, their property, or liberty. You smoking can't cause any trouble if it is in a smoking bar, or your bedroom, etc.

 

  You are your own property, though, according to the initial premise.


 
 Which is why you can do whatever the hell you want with it.....

then you should put it better so that it represents exactly what you mean. this is why us smokers have our rights stripped away so often. you guys don't know how to argue


I would note that your challenge of my argument is based on the strawman fallacy.

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no see you say something, but you don't define it well enough so that someone who isn't telepathic knows what you mean.

if your argument is semantically self-contradictory, then people with an agenda can easily defeat your argument

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Quote: from Aimforthehead at 12:05 am on May 3, 2008

Yes, in private areas and they should have "smoking/non-smoking" areas(bars for example), needs to be up to the business owners.

agreed, and if you dont like the smoke, go someplace else

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Yes. Freedom = yay!

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