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How do I know which religion is the right one? Is this even fair?
Replies: 19Last Post June 22 11:53pm by Soren Kierkegaard
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( Rika The Breeder )


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Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 4:27 pm on June 22, 2008

You have still failed to explain how the choice is a curse besides whining and moaning over how unfair the choices ultimately are. It has been your choice to reject Jesus, therefore, if Christianity were ultimately Truth beyond mere preference, you should be willing to accept any and all possible consequences of your choices beforehand.

But I have no way of knowing if Christianity is the ultimate truth. Yes I can choose to follow or reject Christ, but you talk as if Christianity is the only option available. I can also reject Allah, or Buddha, or reject the God of Jews.

There's no way of knowing. And that's what I meant when I said that the idea in the Abrahamic religions (And possibly other religions) that if you don't follow that one specific God of the said religion you will burn in hell is not logical and is very extreme.

It's like being offered ten sticks in different colors, then being told to pick which color is "right", and getting poked in the eye if the color is wrong. There isn't any indication as to which color should be picked, and different people will choose different sticks because of their different personalities and preferences.

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Quote: from Rika The Breeder at 4:41 pm on June 22, 2008

Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 4:27 pm on June 22, 2008

You have still failed to explain how the choice is a curse besides whining and moaning over how unfair the choices ultimately are.  It has been your choice to reject Jesus, therefore, if Christianity were ultimately Truth beyond mere preference, you should be willing to accept any and all possible consequences of your choices beforehand.

But I have no way of knowing if Christianity is the ultimate truth. Yes I can choose to follow or reject Christ, but you talk as if Christianity is the only option available. I can also reject Allah, or Buddha, or reject the God of Jews.

There's no way of knowing. And that's what I meant when I said that the idea in the Abrahamic religions (And possibly other religions) that if you don't follow that one specific God of the said religion you will burn in hell is not logical and is very extreme.

It's like being offered ten sticks in different colors, then being told to pick which color is "right", and getting poked in the eye if the color is wrong. There isn't any indication as to which color should be picked, and different people will choose different sticks because of their different personalities and preferences.


Again, arguing from the unfairness of the choices provided does not exclude you from the recognition that you are fully accountable for your choice of action and belief prior to your demise.

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4:44 pm on June 22, 2008 | Joined Feb. 2008 | 108 Days Active
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( Rika The Breeder )


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Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 4:44 pm on June 22, 2008

Quote: from Rika The Breeder at 4:41 pm on June 22, 2008

Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 4:27 pm on June 22, 2008

You have still failed to explain how the choice is a curse besides whining and moaning over how unfair the choices ultimately are. It has been your choice to reject Jesus, therefore, if Christianity were ultimately Truth beyond mere preference, you should be willing to accept any and all possible consequences of your choices beforehand.
 

 But I have no way of knowing if Christianity is the ultimate truth. Yes I can choose to follow or reject Christ, but you talk as if Christianity is the only option available. I can also reject Allah, or Buddha, or reject the God of Jews.  

 There's no way of knowing. And that's what I meant when I said that the idea in the Abrahamic religions (And possibly other religions) that if you don't follow that one specific God of the said religion you will burn in hell is not logical and is very extreme.  

 It's like being offered ten sticks in different colors, then being told to pick which color is "right", and getting poked in the eye if the color is wrong. There isn't any indication as to which color should be picked, and different people will choose different sticks because of their different personalities and preferences.


Again, arguing from the unfairness of the choices provided does not exclude you from the recognition that you are fully accountable for your choice of action and belief prior to your demise.

You're obviously ignoring the irrationality of it though.

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4:46 pm on June 22, 2008 | Joined June 2008 | 3 Days Active
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which is why I think THIS is the ultimate proof for the idea that the abrahamic God does not exist as he is depicted [if at all]

If god is benevolent [all good] to all humans, then he should be kind to those who are innocently wrong in their beliefs, not cast them into hell.
By casting innocent people into hell after giving them no evidence of his existence, allowing that person's free will, and allowing other religions to come about, God is basically setting a trap for billions of folks, which to me, is not an act of a benevolent god...

like I said, do some self reflection and come up with a personal philosophy on god. Chances are the abrahamic religions are wrong in their description of God anyway.

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Quote: from Rika The Breeder at 4:46 pm on June 22, 2008

Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 4:44 pm on June 22, 2008

Quote: from Rika The Breeder at 4:41 pm on June 22, 2008

Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 4:27 pm on June 22, 2008

You have still failed to explain how the choice is a curse besides whining and moaning over how unfair the choices ultimately are.  It has been your choice to reject Jesus, therefore, if Christianity were ultimately Truth beyond mere preference, you should be willing to accept any and all possible consequences of your choices beforehand.

  But I have no way of knowing if Christianity is the ultimate truth. Yes I can choose to follow or reject Christ, but you talk as if Christianity is the only option available. I can also reject Allah, or Buddha, or reject the God of Jews.

  There's no way of knowing. And that's what I meant when I said that the idea in the Abrahamic religions (And possibly other religions) that if you don't follow that one specific God of the said religion you will burn in hell is not logical and is very extreme.

  It's like being offered ten sticks in different colors, then being told to pick which color is "right", and getting poked in the eye if the color is wrong. There isn't any indication as to which color should be picked, and different people will choose different sticks because of their different personalities and preferences.


Again, arguing from the unfairness of the choices provided does not exclude you from the recognition that you are fully accountable for your choice of action and belief prior to your demise.

You're obviously ignoring the irrationality of it though.


"If a man cannot admit any previous wrongdoing, how can he possibly accept forgiveness?  And if he is incapable of being forgiven for refusing to admit previous wrongdoing, how and why must he seek to be rewarded thereafter?"

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11:53 pm on June 22, 2008 | Joined Feb. 2008 | 108 Days Active
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