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committed suicide after flippantly telling her parents, "I want to kill myself", when she returned late from a friend's house.

They dismissed the comment and said "don't be silly" but an hour later found her suspended an inch from the floor.

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No wonder.

Lets blame something like a stupid label such as "emo" instead of ourselves. Sounds like something every parent would do

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It doesn't mean that much to me,
Sometimes I don't mean that much to you
And I don't even know what I'm hiding for...
And I don't even know what I'm crying for...

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You're still on about this?

Get. Over. It.

No one has provided a lick of evidence to show me that this was anything but a temper tantrum. It's over. Move on with your lives. Find something else to angst about.

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It's a stupid way to prove something, suicide, but I hope the parents learn from their mistake by totally ignoring the signs. Hell, if I ever heard anything about a "cult" coming from MY kid's mouth- c'mon.

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It doesn't mean that much to me,
Sometimes I don't mean that much to you
And I don't even know what I'm hiding for...
And I don't even know what I'm crying for...

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 10:22 am on May 18, 2008

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You're still on about this?  

 Get. Over. It.  

 No one has provided a lick of evidence to show me that this was anything but a temper tantrum. It's over. Move on with your lives. Find something else to angst about.

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You know, she probably did it because it seems, to me, that her parents didn't give shit about her. Oh, you're cutting? Okay, no big deal- I won't bother to educate myself. Oh, she has mood swings? Oh well, that's being a teenager! OH, you're THREATENING to kill yourself? Don't be silly!

It's a stupid way to prove something, suicide, but I hope the parents learn from their mistake by totally ignoring the signs. Hell, if I ever heard anything about a "cult" coming from MY kid's mouth- c'mon.

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Thing is, though, at least in that article, it didn't exactly make it sound like she was giving them any reason to think that this stuff was anything more than her going through a fad...when her father saw the cuts on her arms, she basically said, "Oh, it's just an initiation, it won't happen again." And, frankly, remembering being a teenager myself and watching two more grow up in my house, mood swings and "sometimes I just want to kill myself!" are not out of the ordinary.

Now, I'm not saying that the parents aren't partially to blame here, because obviously, they seemed a little thick, but I don't know that the information we're given can really point to her being devastated over her parents' apparent (heh) lack of concern. What we're given is a picture of a pretty stereotypical thirteen-year-old emo kid who didn't get that hanging yourself isn't a good way to deal with your problems.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Quote: from ChemicEmotions at 3:14 pm on May 18, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 10:22 am on May 18, 2008

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You're still on about this?  

  Get. Over. It.  

  No one has provided a lick of evidence to show me that this was anything but a temper tantrum. It's over. Move on with your lives. Find something else to angst about.

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You know, she probably did it because it seems, to me, that her parents didn't give shit about her. Oh, you're cutting? Okay, no big deal- I won't bother to educate myself. Oh, she has mood swings? Oh well, that's being a teenager! OH, you're THREATENING to kill yourself? Don't be silly!  

 It's a stupid way to prove something, suicide, but I hope the parents learn from their mistake by totally ignoring the signs. Hell, if I ever heard anything about a "cult" coming from MY kid's mouth- c'mon.

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Thing is, though, at least in that article, it didn't exactly make it sound like she was giving them any reason to think that this stuff was anything more than her going through a fad...when her father saw the cuts on her arms, she basically said, "Oh, it's just an initiation, it won't happen again." And, frankly, remembering being a teenager myself and watching two more grow up in my house, mood swings and "sometimes I just want to kill myself!" are not out of the ordinary.

Now, I'm not saying that the parents aren't partially to blame here, because obviously, they seemed a little thick, but I don't know that the information we're given can really point to her being devastated over her parents' apparent (heh) lack of concern. What we're given is a picture of a pretty stereotypical thirteen-year-old emo kid who didn't get that hanging yourself isn't a good way to deal with your problems.

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To be honest, you would have to be really, really, HUGELY fucking stupid to believe the line, "Oh, it won't happen again" from a 13 year old. And besides, the whole "it's just an initiation" excuse is worse than just cutting because you have emotional problems..

I agree with you to an extent, though. But I do think that, and it happens a lot, parents blame everybody but themselves when something somewhat tragic as this happens.

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It doesn't mean that much to me,
Sometimes I don't mean that much to you
And I don't even know what I'm hiding for...
And I don't even know what I'm crying for...

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To be honest, you would have to be really, really, HUGELY fucking stupid to believe the line, "Oh, it won't happen again" from a 13 year old. And besides, the whole "it's just an initiation" excuse is worse than just cutting because you have emotional problems..

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Or hugely in denial. Nobody wants their child to be "that kid," the one who actually is depressed and who ends up living a miserable life. It's easier to just say "Oh, okay, it won't happen again," than it is to accept that your kid might have issues, and that you might be making those issues worse.  

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I agree with you to an extent, though. But I do think that, and it happens a lot, parents blame everybody but themselves when something somewhat tragic as this happens.

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*nods* They don't want to see themselves as failures or deal with the devastating truth that they have failed their child. They'd much rather believe that they were helpless.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

LOL

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In vain I have struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed.

You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love you.

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i am not an emo or nething and have nothing against any1 4 hu they r. <p> but how dare u sit there n insult some 1 hus hung themselves <br> its probs cos of wankers like u she did it <br> how can u comment on sumthyn u obviously no nothing about <br> have u ever thort tht mayb her rents may see this? have u ever thort how they wud feel. yes suicide is a selfish thing 2 do by all means, but 2 sit here n take the piss out of sum1 hus dead <p> "she hung herself with a tie? fucking retard. from a bunk bed? that mus thave been hard to do. "- o im, sorry do u have the guts 2 do tht? obviously nt or u wudnt b sittin there scrutinizing sum1s like. she was probs v un happy n i jus cnt believe u lot r sittin here sayin these things <p> how sad r u?!  <p> ur sick <br>

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I know i'm sick.

Lmao shut the fuck up.

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Quote: from youfuckers at 2:04 pm on June 17, 2008

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i am not an emo or nething and have nothing against any1 4 hu they r. <p> but how dare u sit there n insult some 1 hus hung themselves <br> its probs cos of wankers like u she did it <br> how can u comment on sumthyn u obviously no nothing about <br> have u ever thort tht mayb her rents may see this? have u ever thort how they wud feel. yes suicide is a selfish thing 2 do by all means, but 2 sit here n take the piss out of sum1 hus dead <p> "she hung herself with a tie? fucking retard. from a bunk bed? that mus thave been hard to do. "- o im, sorry do u have the guts 2 do tht? obviously nt or u wudnt b sittin there scrutinizing sum1s like. she was probs v un happy n i jus cnt believe u lot r sittin here sayin these things <p> how sad r u?! <p> ur sick <br>

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I know i'm sick.

Lmao shut the fuck up.

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you read/comprehended that?
i got to up to wankers.

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finnaly i throw my toung into your throught

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Quote: from Energizer Bunny at 2:56 pm on June 17, 2008

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Quote: from youfuckers at 2:04 pm on June 17, 2008

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i am not an emo or nething and have nothing against any1 4 hu they r. <p> but how dare u sit there n insult some 1 hus hung themselves <br> its probs cos of wankers like u she did it <br> how can u comment on sumthyn u obviously no nothing about <br> have u ever thort tht mayb her rents may see this? have u ever thort how they wud feel. yes suicide is a selfish thing 2 do by all means, but 2 sit here n take the piss out of sum1 hus dead <p> "she hung herself with a tie? fucking retard. from a bunk bed? that mus thave been hard to do. "- o im, sorry do u have the guts 2 do tht? obviously nt or u wudnt b sittin there scrutinizing sum1s like. she was probs v un happy n i jus cnt believe u lot r sittin here sayin these things <p> how sad r u?!  <p> ur sick <br>

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 I know i'm sick.  

 Lmao shut the fuck up.

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you read/comprehended that?  
i got to up to wankers.

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Yeah i got up to that bit as well and then read the 'ur sick' at the end and gave up