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Quote: from KathyN at 12:01 pm on June 14, 2008

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It was never proven either way.

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you don't have to prove that things don't exist in order to assume they don't exist

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You should not play with something like that

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if you don't have proof of something's existence, assume it doesn't exist, because for all logical intents and purposes, it doesn't

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much like i assume there aren't enormous pianos falling out of the sky when i leave my house, and thus i don't exit with a safety helmet and panicking under hard structures

if you don't have proof of something's existence, assume it doesn't exist, because for all logical intents and purposes, it doesn't

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yes, that's your own personal, irrational, illogical and unjustifiable preference. you're free to enjoy it.

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But isn't having an open mind more logical than closed

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Doctor who - Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey!
used to show time travel's effects.

Lion king avatars FTW

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But isn't having an open mind more logical than closed

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i mean it's fun for shits and giggles but as a way to approach knowledge and life it's not logical, logic tells us to discard anything that we can't prove

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Quote: from Apotheosis at 5:11 pm on June 14, 2008

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yes, that's your own personal, irrational, illogical and unjustifiable preference. you're free to enjoy it.

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But isn't having an open mind more logical than closed

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Quote: from Link01 at 7:14 pm on June 14, 2008

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Quote: from Apotheosis at 5:11 pm on June 14, 2008

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yes, that's your own personal, irrational, illogical and unjustifiable preference. you're free to enjoy it.

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 But isn't having an open mind more logical than closed

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plus, if you are openminded you can sometimes find some logic in those things...

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i'm not entirely convinced that you understand the scientific method or what logic really is at all.

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One of the "Mystical Experiences" is some 16 year old kid amazed that
he hallucinates his old spanish class in a town square

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plus, if you are openminded you can sometimes find some logic in those things...

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one such conclusion is, don't assume things exist without proof indicating their existence. this is basically a rule of logic. you can have an open mind, as in, if someone tells you "hey astral projection exists!!!" you can be like "why?" instead of shooting him in the face for being stupid. asking "why?" is good. but once he answers with some retarded anecdote that doesn't begin to resemble a coherent argument, the logical thing to do is to discard it the notion just as quickly as you considered it.

Post edited at 9:23 am on June 14, 2008 by Apotheosis

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Quote: from Link01 at 12:14 pm on June 14, 2008

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But isn't having an open mind more logical than closed

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no, not if being open minded means seriously discussing the existence of something just because you don't have any proof that it doesn't exist

i mean it's fun for shits and giggles but as a way to approach knowledge and life it's not logical, logic tells us to discard anything that we can't prove

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closed mind means you are not up to any new things but that is what science is all about

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Doctor who - Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey!
used to show time travel's effects.

Lion king avatars FTW

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closed mind means you are not up to any new things but that is what science is all about

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it's like saying "GUYS I KNOW THAT TWO PLUS TWO IS FOUR AND THREE PLUS THREE IS SIX BUT WHY WOULD EIGHT PLUS EIGHT BE SIXTEEN YOU'RE ALL SO CLOSE MINDED CONSIDER NEW THINGS"

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Quote: from KathyN at 12:18 pm on June 14, 2008

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plus, if you are openminded you can sometimes find some logic in those things...

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okay kids logic isn't some ethereal quality to be found by those with a peculiar spirit and a curious, questioning nature. logic is a mathematical method of thought processing and of handling ideas and notions. logic reaches conclusions.

one such conclusion is, don't assume things exist without proof indicating their existence. this is basically a rule of logic. you can have an open mind, as in, if someone tells you "hey astral projection exists!!!" you can be like "why?" instead of shooting him in the face for being stupid. asking "why?" is good. but once he answers with some retarded anecdote that doesn't begin to resemble a coherent argument, the logical thing to do is to discard it the notion just as quickly as you considered it.

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