And I'm asking you personally, I do not want the typical, "It's just so nasty!" reply, or better yet, "Because it's just wrong!"

That wasn't the question: WHY is it so wrong? Society makes it out to be wrong, obviously, but I don't want society's answer, I want your answer and opinions on incest, and the reasons behind those opinions.

Which is why I have decided to put this into the Intellectual Forum instead of some other Forum where a bunch of noobs will be like, "Ewwwww, you're sick for even asking this question!!!"

I want mature replies, please.

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It increases the chances of birth defects. Well that's one reason.

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So? There is always a high risk of birth defect in every birth, especially if you have hereditary problems.

That is also typical society, I asked for your answer, not society's.

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from the perspective of natural selection it is completely counter-intuitive to sexual reproduction since you're mingling similar genes together as opposed to grouping together more diverse ones. that would be my answer.

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The thing about that is, we are all related, in one way or another, and supposedly, we are all descended from incestual relationships.

So that is also a typical society answer, not what I was looking for. Thank you any how.

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if you want deaf children with a few extra appendages, go ahead.

HOWEVER, if the two people involved have the operations nescessary to ensure that they cannot have children, and that they are both consenting adults, I don't see why, in the eyes of the law, it should be considered illegal.

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Blood lines in offspring will be too close= birth defects.

if you want deaf children with a few extra appendages, go ahead.

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Refer to above post and reply, this has already been said, yet another typical society answer.

Please, if that's all you've got, I'm beginning to think there is nothing wrong with incest.

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From a physical standpoint - it highly increases the chance that the offspring would have a mental/physical defect. Otherwise - I just don't understand how you can have sexual feelings for someone in you're family like that, and for me, it's even more bizarre that people act on those impulses.

HOWEVER, if the two people involved have the operations nescessary to ensure that they cannot have children, and that they are both consenting adults, I don't see why, in the eyes of the law, it should be considered illegal.

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See, this is what I was looking for. She gave me her opinion, although it had a typical society answer thrown in, it still had her opinion. And btw, in 26 states in the U.S., it is legal to marry your first cousin, so.

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Quote: from SovSull at 1:30 pm on June 4, 2008

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from the perspective of natural selection it is completely counter-intuitive to sexual reproduction since you're mingling similar genes together as opposed to grouping together more diverse ones. that would be my answer.

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The thing about that is, we are all related, in one way or another, and supposedly, we are all descended from incestual relationships.

So that is also a typical society answer, not what I was looking for. Thank you any how.

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my definition of incest is sexual relations between two members of the same immediate family. if your definition is between two human beings who share similar genes, then what you're asking is "what is wrong with two people being attracted to each other"

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Quote: from BeautifulSorrow at 4:32 pm on June 4, 2008

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Quote: from SovSull at 1:30 pm on June 4, 2008

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from the perspective of natural selection it is completely counter-intuitive to sexual reproduction since you're mingling similar genes together as opposed to grouping together more diverse ones. that would be my answer.

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 The thing about that is, we are all related, in one way or another, and supposedly, we are all descended from incestual relationships.  

 So that is also a typical society answer, not what I was looking for. Thank you any how.

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my definition of incest is sexual relations between two members of the same immediate family. if your definition is between two human beings who share similar genes, then what you're asking is "what is wrong with two people being attracted to each other"

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Incest is not immediate family, it is those having sexual relations who do share the same DNA, no matter how distant.

Therefore, your answer is still a typical society answer.

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Quote: from SovSull at 1:30 pm on June 4, 2008

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from the perspective of natural selection it is completely counter-intuitive to sexual reproduction since you're mingling similar genes together as opposed to grouping together more diverse ones. that would be my answer.

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The thing about that is, we are all related, in one way or another, and supposedly, we are all descended from incestual relationships.  

So that is also a typical society answer, not what I was looking for. Thank you any how.

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so what distinction are you trying to make? are you saying that relations between two close relatives who share a significantly large amount of dna (such as a brother and sister) are no different from relations between two people who may have had a common ancestor hundreds of generations back but are otherwise unrelated?

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Quote: from BeautifulSorrow at 4:32 pm on June 4, 2008

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Quote: from SovSull at 1:30 pm on June 4, 2008

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from the perspective of natural selection it is completely counter-intuitive to sexual reproduction since you're mingling similar genes together as opposed to grouping together more diverse ones. that would be my answer.

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 The thing about that is, we are all related, in one way or another, and supposedly, we are all descended from incestual relationships.  

 So that is also a typical society answer, not what I was looking for. Thank you any how.

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so what distinction are you trying to make? are you saying that relations between two close relatives who share a significantly large amount of dna (such as a brother and sister) is no different than two people who may have had a common ancestor hundreds of generations back but are otherwise unrelated?

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My point is anyone up to at least 6th cousins being looked down upon society still. It should be there right and there right alone, that is my point. If two people love each other, why the hell should it matter?

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And btw, in 26 states in the U.S., it is legal to marry your first cousin, so.

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Aye, I know. I think first cousins is somewhat different from sleeping with your brother/sister, or a parent. I know it still carries a risk of defects, but I think a lot of people see it as...more wrong somehow.

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Quote: from BeautifulSorrow at 9:34 pm on June 4, 2008

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And btw, in 26 states in the U.S., it is legal to marry your first cousin, so.

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Aye, I know. I think first cousins is somewhat different from sleeping with your brother/sister, or a parent. I know it still carries a risk of defects, but I think a lot of people see it as...more wrong somehow.

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I would never try incest, but I don't look down on people who do, and I accept people for who they really are. If two people love each other, I don't see how it should matter. It's like I would never be a lesbian, but that doesn't mean I can't hang out with and be friends with lesbians, and accept them, now can I?

That's my view on incest.

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