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Quote: from sunshineshower at 5:34 am on June 2, 2008

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Quote: from Rastafarian at 1:31 pm on June 2, 2008

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http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/

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  Sick, fucking sick.

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 What's so sick, fucking sick about it?

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That people died and there is a website dedicated to saying it didn't. Even if it wasn't 6,000,000 people, even if it was less than that people fucking died! If people started setting up websites saying 9/11 didn't happen or that black slavery is a myth what the hell do you think people would say?!

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There are websites that deny 9/11.

No one is saying Jews didn't die, just that the numbers are vastly misconstrued. It's a bit of a misnomer in this instance that denial doesn't actually mean total denial, but more at the severity of it.
You should actually gives those videos a chance, they are very interesting.

Post edited at 5:42 am on June 2, 2008 by Rastafarian

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One day , history will be brought back.

This time...it will be completed.

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You want the Holocaust to be completed?!!

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Quote: from latin muscle at 1:31 pm on June 2, 2008

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One day , history will be brought back.  

 This time...it will be completed.  
 

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You want the Holocaust to be completed?!!

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Quote: from sunshineshower at 5:37 am on June 2, 2008

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That people died and there is a website dedicated to saying it didn't. Even if it wasn't 6,000,000 people, even if it was less than that people fucking died! If people started setting up websites saying 9/11 didn't happen or that black slavery is a myth what the hell do you think people would say?!

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There are websites that deny 9/11.

No one is saying Jews didn't die, just that the numbers are vastly misconstrued. It's a bit of a misnomer in this instance that denial doesn't actually mean total denial, but more at the severity of it.
You should actually gives those videos a chance, they are very interesting.

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Videos are nothing. Go to the real places, when you walk into a room of prosthetic limbs and realise that every single person who ever wore one is dead. Then you can tell me to watch fucking videos.

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Quote: from sunshineshower at 5:40 am on June 2, 2008

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Quote: from latin muscle at 1:31 pm on June 2, 2008

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One day , history will be brought back.

  This time...it will be completed.
 

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 You want the Holocaust to be completed?!!

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No.
I never said that.

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This time...it will be completed.

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Quote: from Rastafarian at 1:40 pm on June 2, 2008

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Quote: from sunshineshower at 5:37 am on June 2, 2008

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 That people died and there is a website dedicated to saying it didn't. Even if it wasn't 6,000,000 people, even if it was less than that people fucking died! If people started setting up websites saying 9/11 didn't happen or that black slavery is a myth what the hell do you think people would say?!

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 There are websites that deny 9/11.  

 No one is saying Jews didn't die, just that the numbers are vastly misconstrued. It's a bit of a misnomer in this instance that denial doesn't actually mean total denial, but more at the severity of it.  
 You should actually gives those videos a chance, they are very interesting.

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Videos are nothing. Go to the real places, when you walk into a room of prosthetic limbs and realise that every single person who ever wore one is dead. Then you can tell me to watch fucking videos.

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Prosthetic limbs are nothing, when you actually experience the holocaust, only then can you actually be knowledgable of it!

Do you know how silly and fanatical this is making you sound?

A room full of dead people or limbs doesn't actually impart knowledge of the full scale of the holocaust.

Post edited at 5:50 am on June 2, 2008 by Rastafarian

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I'm aware that I haven't experienced it, so don't patronise me. But I can still think its sick that people will deny it or say that oh its exaggerated. So what if only 2,000,000 people died. I guess that wasn't that bad!

That website you posted is saying it doesn't believe the holocaust happened, not that it was exaggerated, but that it didn't happen. So you posting that, makes you just as bad.

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A room full of dead people or limbs doesn't actually impart knowledge of the full scale of the holocaust.

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So what gives you the knowledge to say that it was exaggerated or it didn't happen?

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is a very interesting figure in film, history and propaganda discussions.

BTW, denying the Holocaust is a crime in Germany and in other countries.(See below) In Canada it is essentially a crime though you can skirt it if you are very careful with your words. Infamous denier Ernst Zundel managed to evade justice for years before being deported.
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/02/15/zundel-germany.html
"In several European countries, including Germany, Austria, Belgium, Poland, Spain and France, Holocaust denial is a specific criminal offence. In Canada, Holocaust denial can be prosecuted as a hate crime."

There are still a few survivors around. If you connect to any one of them or to people who were non-Jewish European children at the time, you'll find out how dark and widespread evil can become when people let it.

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That website you posted is saying it doesn't believe the holocaust happened, not that it was exaggerated, but that it didn't happen. So you posting that, makes you just as bad.

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Where?

If you actually watched the videos you'd realize that it doesn't despute Auschwitz, but that of the other camps -- Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.. It's not disputing that the holocaust did not happen, just the severity of it. Your bullheadedness is damn well stumped to actually realize that, as I said previously -

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No one is saying Jews didn't die, just that the numbers are vastly misconstrued. It's a bit of a misnomer in this instance that denial doesn't actually mean total denial of the act, but more at the severity of it.

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Quote: from Rastafarian at 1:46 pm on June 2, 2008

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A room full of dead people or limbs doesn't actually impart knowledge of the full scale of the holocaust.

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So what gives you the knowledge to say that it was exaggerated or it didn't happen?

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No, I'm refuting that your dramatic attempt at persuasion is actually useless fobbery, just like your post below. No one is saying it didn't happen, the point  of the movie was to try to prove that the enormity of the entire situation was exaggerated. Not specific instances.

Either way I pretty much agree with what OTA was trying to actually defeat my 'argument' with but won't have much of a chance. Regardless of the number it is still a horrible crime against humanity.

Post edited at 6:03 am on June 2, 2008 by Rastafarian

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It happened. It happened as described. That is all documented very well, largely in part thanks to the Nazi's own meticulous records as well as their propaganda machine which took many movies. Films were still an amazing technology to many so it was used to impress people on all sides of the war. As an aside, Leni Riefenstahl http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-7793273.html

is a very interesting figure in film, history and propaganda discussions.

BTW, denying the Holocaust is a crime in Germany and in other countries.(See below) In Canada it is essentially a crime though you can skirt it if you are very careful with your words. Infamous denier Ernst Zundel managed to evade justice for years before being deported.  
From  
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/02/15/zundel-germany.html
"In several European countries, including Germany, Austria, Belgium, Poland, Spain and France, Holocaust denial is a specific criminal offence. In Canada, Holocaust denial can be prosecuted as a hate crime."

There are still a few survivors around. If you connect to any one of them or to people who were non-Jewish European children at the time, you'll find out how dark and widespread evil can become when people let it.

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One of the things I've seen said so much by Holocaust deniers is that the stories are so surreal they can't be true. Isn't that proof for it being true. If someone was making it up, they'd stick to things people would easily believe, the less lies you tell the less likely you are to slip up. When I was in Poland our guide told us about a boy who was taken by the head guard at the Majdanke concentration camp. He was given a whip and made an honorary guard. Obviously if he'd refused he would have been killed. Eventually it became second nature to him to whip people for taking a second to rest. The fear of being killed made him do that. And then one day the guard decided to do an official ceremony to make this little boy into a real guard. He called his parents to this ceremony. When they got there they saw there was a gallows set up. The boy was told to hang his parents or he would be killed. He put both his parents heads in the nooses and let them go.

No one can make that up. No one could. How can you deny that?!

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