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Is time tangible?
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Someone tell me.

I know it's a real thing because it can be measured, but... is it like, officially tangible?

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It really depends on your view on the world.

To me, time is tangible because we can measure it, we can observe it progress, and the like.

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That's what I was thinkin' too man, that it was tangible because we can measure and that way we can draw empirical evidence of its existence through sight.

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I don't know that time is tangible even though we can measure it. Are we not more so measuring the distance around the sun, or counting the revolutions of the earth made? That time is existant, this is evident from the time of Creation, God states that the evening and morning are the first day, so days are measured as sequences of time.

We see the effect of the "aging" process, but can we say that time is the result of our bodies breaking down, or is it that our bodies are breaking down that is responsible for the aging process more so than time?

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Time is a label put on the potential and occurrence of events in Space. Time is not physical or tangible but without it, events of space cannot occur.

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It is tangible not only because we can measure it but because it is not static. Black holes, objects moving incredibly fast, and other phenomena can alter its flow, so I would call it a tangible thing.

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Quote: from halfinsane at 6:42 pm on April 22, 2008

It is tangible not only because we can measure it but because it is not static. Black holes, objects moving incredibly fast, and other phenomena can alter its flow, so I would call it a tangible thing.
How in the fucking world does that constitute tangibility?

No, of course time isn't tangible.  You can measure the speed of light, but that doesn't make that tangible.

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Quote: from matto at 10:28 pm on April 22, 2008

Quote: from halfinsane at 6:42 pm on April 22, 2008

It is tangible not only because we can measure it but because it is not static. Black holes, objects moving incredibly fast, and other phenomena can alter its flow, so I would call it a tangible thing.
How in the fucking world does that constitute tangibility?

No, of course time isn't tangible.  You can measure the speed of light, but that doesn't make that tangible.


Uh, light is definitely tangible.

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If you read what I wrote, you'll see that that's not what I said.

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^Well speed is only a measurment though, right? While time is something to be measured.

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Quote: from Da Bears at 3:15 pm on April 24, 2008

^Well speed is only a measurment though, right? While time is something to be measured.

But when you do measure time, you're relating the number of ticks it takes a hand to move around a circle rather than time itself. Say the gears started working slower, does that mean time is slowing down, no.

Here's a question to think about. If there was nothing to measure time by (ie no revolution of earth or sun) would that mean time does not exist? Because we would have no concept of it.

Another, what would make time go *slower*? Reducing the amount of time it takes to decay and decompose? Or possibly, slowing down all molecular structures and movements, which is not *actually* slowing down time.


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Quote: from Hero at 5:17 pm on April 24, 2008

Quote: from Da Bears at 3:15 pm on April 24, 2008

^Well speed is only a measurment though, right? While time is something to be measured.

But when you do measure time, you're relating the number of ticks it takes a hand to move around a circle rather than time itself. Say the gears started working slower, does that mean time is slowing down, no.  

Here's a question to think about. If there was nothing to measure time by (ie no revolution of earth or sun) would that mean time does not exist? Because we would have no concept of it.

Another, what would make time go *slower*? Reducing the amount of time it takes to decay and decompose? Or possibly, slowing down all molecular structures and movements, which is not *actually* slowing down time.


No, it wouldn't. IMO: Just because nothing is happening doesn't mean time isn't passing.

I've heard that going really, really fast makes time slow down and that they've tested this.

Anyways, I've read a physicist say that we know time is real because it can be measured.

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Quote: from Da Bears at 1:36 am on April 25, 2008

Quote: from Hero at 5:17 pm on April 24, 2008

Quote: from Da Bears at 3:15 pm on April 24, 2008

^Well speed is only a measurment though, right? While time is something to be measured.
 

 But when you do measure time, you're relating the number of ticks it takes a hand to move around a circle rather than time itself. Say the gears started working slower, does that mean time is slowing down, no.

 Here's a question to think about. If there was nothing to measure time by (ie no revolution of earth or sun) would that mean time does not exist? Because we would have no concept of it.  

 Another, what would make time go *slower*? Reducing the amount of time it takes to decay and decompose? Or possibly, slowing down all molecular structures and movements, which is not *actually* slowing down time.


No, it wouldn't. IMO: Just because nothing is happening doesn't mean time isn't passing.  

I've heard that going really, really fast makes time slow down and that they've tested this.

Anyways, I've read a physicist say that we know time is real because it can be measured.


There would be no point in time existing if there were no revolutions of planets. Because it would be night time, forever. We would not even think of time. And if we did, the only reason we would use it is to count how many ticks we are living or have been living, hence decomposition.

Going really fast might slow down molecular movement, but I doubt it slows down time, because time isn't a real thing.


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Quote: from Hero at 3:20 pm on April 25, 2008

Quote: from Da Bears at 1:36 am on April 25, 2008

Quote: from Hero at 5:17 pm on April 24, 2008

Quote: from Da Bears at 3:15 pm on April 24, 2008

^Well speed is only a measurment though, right? While time is something to be measured.

  But when you do measure time, you're relating the number of ticks it takes a hand to move around a circle rather than time itself. Say the gears started working slower, does that mean time is slowing down, no.    

  Here's a question to think about. If there was nothing to measure time by (ie no revolution of earth or sun) would that mean time does not exist? Because we would have no concept of it.

  Another, what would make time go *slower*? Reducing the amount of time it takes to decay and decompose? Or possibly, slowing down all molecular structures and movements, which is not *actually* slowing down time.


 

 No, it wouldn't. IMO: Just because nothing is happening doesn't mean time isn't passing.

 I've heard that going really, really fast makes time slow down and that they've tested this.  

 Anyways, I've read a physicist say that we know time is real because it can be measured.


There would be no point in time existing if there were no revolutions of planets. Because it would be night time, forever. We would not even think of time. And if we did, the only reason we would use it is to count how many ticks we are living or have been living, hence decomposition.

Going really fast might slow down molecular movement, but I doubt it slows down time, because time isn't a real thing.

 


Time is a real thing. The 'time is an invention' assumption that a lot of people make is wrong.  

Of course we would think of time even if it were dark all the time. You'll still die after ten minutes of holding your breath in the dark.

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Time is a real thing. The 'time is an invention' assumption that a lot of people make is wrong.  

Of course we would think of time even if it were dark all the time. You'll still die after ten minutes of holding your breath in the dark.


Well if that's true then we're making an assumption about an assumption that was made in the first place.

If it were dark all the time, you would ONLY BE measuring your life (decomposition), because there's nothing else to measure. Welllllll./.....

Ok I'm gonna go off on a tangent. There is speed/acceleration that can be measured using time. But when you measure that, all you're doing is taking what's happening with an object (say, a race car) and the gears ticking in a clock. Then, you relate them by judging the distance that the race car has made to the amount of ticks that the clock has made. That relationship does nothing to show that time is real or if it exists. All it shows is comparing the momentum of the car to a constant (the clock) which does not change, so that we can relate and compare the two. Just because the clock does not change velocity does not mean that time is flowing though. You could have a clock that ticked faster but it wouldn't mean time is going faster. What does keep going is the clock's momentum, the earth's, sun's, moon's, and clock's momentum keep going.

Based on that information, if we had a totally dark world with no revolutions, the only thing we would be relating is the amount of ticks on a clock and our death (decomposition). And if there was no organic material, then the clock wouldn't be measuring time, but only measuring it's own momentum. Time would be 0.

In conclusion (or a tldr summary), time is only the comparison between momentums, which is a thing made up in our head.


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