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Apotheosis
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If thorough analysis cannot determine who owned what, then no one cuts anything, period.
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Tru7h004
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I am against abortion but for killing babies.
------- America, I'm throwing my queer shoulder to the wheel.
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12:23 pm on April 4, 2007 | Joined: Sep. 2006 | Days Active: 426 Join to learn more about Tru7h004 Georgia, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 1,716 | Points: 6,785
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mountain hare
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If my definition was unacceptable, could you please clarify what you mean by "sapient"? 
Been there, done that. I suggest you re-read my previous post in its entirety before posting your inane responses.
I am quite aware of the meanings of both words. 
Apparently you are not, since you quoted an overly simplistic definition from an online dictionary. I responded with an article on Wikipedia which clarifies the difference between sentience and sapience.
You said that babies were sapient not sentient. You are confused, not I: 
1. I never said for certain that babies were sapient. I said that they were possibly (likely?) sapient. 2. The article on Wikipedia I posted was highly relevant, because it clarified the difference between sapience and sentience, a concept which I've noticed quite a few people on this forum have difficulty grasping.
Why is intelligence a necessary criteria for rights? 
It's not, which is why I raised the issue of whether a fetus was sentient. But sapience is a necessary criteria for human rights. What's interesting here is that you're questioning whether sapience is required for the granting of rights. Yet many anti-abortionists are callous meat eaters. Go figure.
I have no idea, as I have very little education. It doesn't really matter though, as this is a hypothetical example. 
Of course it matters. If a hypothetical is highly unlikely to occur in real life, I fail to see why I should address it. You might as well ask "Is it ethical to smash a brick, if that brick would have developed sentience one hour later?"
You think that a human being who currently has no brain function but is certain to wake up (without brain damage) in an hour should get no rights? That it would be fine to kill such a person? 
Demonstrate to me that human beings with no brain function can just 'wake up'. That might be a bit difficult to do, since someone who has no brain function is considered medically dead. Oh, and Lazarus doesn't count.
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( whoisabs )
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Good job at not reading the OP.
------- whoisabs i'm not sure Guess who's back?
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Steinbeck
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Quote: from whoisabs at 5:38 pm on April 2, 2007
I also support the choice to live or not. That if an individual wants to kill themselves for whatever reason, then they should be allowed to do as such. 
In support of the choice to live or not also follows that other individuals should not be allowed to force either of those conditions upon another individual, unless said individual has done something to forefit their rights.
In both these instances your position on life is at odds with that of the Catholic Church. Just to let you know.
When abortions take place there is no regard for choice, with exception to medical emergancies and sometimes rape. The child's right to decide if it lives or not is being violated, and the violators of said rights should be punished. Anyone who would do such a thing simply is proving that they oppose the very concept of choice, and are in effect anti-choice.
Very good points. An excellent statement overall. I disagree on the issue of suicide and death penalty but then again I hold different opinions on these points.
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11:16 pm on April 9, 2007 | Joined: Sep. 2006 | Days Active: 205 Join to learn more about Steinbeck California, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 2,476 | Points: 4,642
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Steinbeck
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Quote: from Glow Worm at 5:45 pm on April 2, 2007
That's nice and all, but I believe that only people get rights.
What is the definition of "people"? Do they have to have passed through a womne's vagina in order to be considered "people"?
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11:21 pm on April 9, 2007 | Joined: Sep. 2006 | Days Active: 205 Join to learn more about Steinbeck California, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 2,476 | Points: 4,642
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