"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
-Benjamin Franklin

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Throw a frog into boiling water and it will immediately eject himself free of it; but content a frog, at first, in water of normal temperature and to gradually increase the temperature: -- why, then, you can boil him alive without restraint. In a speech to the Virginia Convention, on June the 16th, 1788, James Madison (1751-1836) said: "I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." Lurking dangers to our liberty exist, not only to "insidious encroachment"; but, as a much respected judge of the U. S. Supreme Court, Louis D. Brandeis (1856-1941), pointed out, after echoing Madison's view, the greatest danger exists in "men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." More dangerous, still, is for the rest of us to fall asleep:

   "Here, then, is the summation of the matter. We had thought, the decent people in all countries, that government by the people under democracy, and with it equal liberty for all, were things definitely achieved. We were forgetting the long struggle and the heroic sacrifice that gave them to the world. Bygone tyrannies and cruelties were forgotton in the nearer perspective of lesser things. Hence came a kind of inertia - a little slumber, a little sleep, a little folding of the hands to sleep - and thereby a creeping paralysis that made us almost let freedom slip from our hands." (The Canadian humorist, Stephen Leacock.)

Leacock wrote this in 1942, at a time when most all of Europe was under the Nazi boot. The Nazis did not spring with their racist policies full blown onto the stage; their atrocities were proceeded by a series of steps that took place over many years, steps that had the implicit consent of a sleepy people that were, are, no different than the rest of us.

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That's ridiculous. A in a "Police state" the government controls your actions.  RFID doesn't do that at all.

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Do you even KNOW what a police state is?

I never said a police state controls your actions.

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"Well this is new....and scary" - Serena on a Convent Scarab

Though, the fact that dogs are microchipped in a similar way can obviously churn the stomachs of some, as if we are being treated like animals. But, many things would be made easier, as ZenaGirl already posted herself. I'd just like it to be flawless before making it something that everyone absolutely has to have.

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Je suis super.

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OK Forever Angel, I'm tired of arguing with you. You can take your nineteenth century paranoia and go live in a cave because there is no way you will be able to function in tomorrow's world.  
 You don't have to believe me- you can just wait and see.

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Not everything is a government conspiracy. Though, it's understandable why people automatically assume certain things to be just that.

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Je suis super.

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People smarter than you and me both, worry about government eroding the peoples rights. That you want to run right out and give yours away with no thought about the consequences is very scary. And if comes down to forced embedding of a tracking chip in me or my children, yep, I'll find that cave.

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Embedding really isn't the problem given the outcry against. These chips are so small that one could tag it on your clothes and you wouldn't know about it. Eventually as RFID scanners are everywhere, simply walking around would give anyone with access to the scanner's logs your where abouts and what you did. That's what I'm worried about. Someone lightly touching you and leaving a tracker that you would never find. It's Enemy of the State.

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"Well this is new....and scary" - Serena on a Convent Scarab

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There's a lot of good that could come from a tracking chip too. Not just bad.

Not everything is a government conspiracy. Though, it's understandable why people automatically assume certain things to be just that.

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There's a lot of good that could come from a tracking chip too.

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When it's limited to goods and NOT people. When a large organization is able to easily track large amounts of people, that is NEVER good. RFID allows this. Cheaply and easily.

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Not everything is a government conspiracy. Though, it's understandable why people automatically assume certain things to be just that.

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how much trust have you put in the past 4 administrations? If a easily usable RFID chip was available today with lots of scanning devices around, do you think the Bush administration would have ANY qualms with sticking hundreds if not thousands of people with it?

I for one do not think they would they even think for a second not to do it.

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"Well this is new....and scary" - Serena on a Convent Scarab