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Your perspective only suits certain circumstances.
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Caffeinism
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I would not call it a new idea. Isn’t it very similar to philosophical skepticism, or did I misunderstand you?
Anyway, it seems truthful enough for me, but still, theories should be accepted just for the sake of not making everything impossibly complicated. And if you are trying to look at something as simple, as bucket through all existent and non-existent perceptions, your bedroom walls would soon get upholstered with felt. (This post is probably irrelevant and senseless, for which I am apologizing.)
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ajm51987
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A theory in a scientific sense isn't proven, thats why its, well, a theory. When a theory is proven true for all cases, it becomes a law.
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phragit
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The only proven idea is Cogito Ergo Sum [I think, therfore I am] everything else is relative. I cannot prove what world I am in, that I am living [in a conventional sense], or that I even have free will.
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The Samsoniteman
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Proof is mathmatical. 1 + 1 = 2 is proof. "I think therefore I am" is not a proven concept. It might be highly evident you exist, but you can't prove it. Just like you can't prove the sun will rise tommorow or that fire is hot.
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phragit
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Thought [self-awareness] is proof that we exist, we may only exist in thought, but exist, we do and thought proves it. Mathematics are relative, for example the Persians had a number system based around the number 6 and were the first people to come up with the concept of zero. Mathematics are no different from sciences; thus relative, they are.
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exparrot
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Though your point is valid, a theory tends to be something that is generally accepted by society as fact. Whether you believe it is irrelevant, because theory is all about generalization.
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Technically, you cannot prove anything. You can, however, prove things beyond reasonable doubt.
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phragit
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Quote: from mcace at 8:39 pm on Aug. 22, 2006
 Technically, you cannot prove anything. You can, however, prove things beyond reasonable doubt. 
any measurement is completely relative, durring the time known measurements are taken the universe is expanding at a constant rate, but i the universe stopped expanding or reverted all measurement would be off. So even things currently thought to be true are changagle.
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The Samsoniteman
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Quote: from phragit at 5:54 pm on Aug. 22, 2006
Thought [self-awareness] is proof that we exist, we may only exist in thought, but exist, we do and thought proves it.
There still are, however, criticisms to the philosophy. There are also problems with defining existance and the phrase "I exist".
Mathematics are relative, for example the Persians had a number system based around the number 6 and were the first people to come up with the concept of zero. Mathematics are no different from sciences; thus relative, they are.
Number systems only differ in the way they record mathmatics. It is still possible to demonstrate a mathmatical proof (e.g. proving pyhthag) using any number system. They're just different languages.
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Brandon Flood
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this topic sounds like something you would hear in geometry or calculus, for opposite reasons. In geometry, and in cases that can be done in real life, the way to prove something true or false, is to provide a counterexample, or the lack of one that exists in real numbers or whatever you're dealing with. Samsoniteman is right, they all have a set reason to them, and can therefore prove something entirely true, or at least for a given set, such as all real numbers, or otherwise.
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