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Replies: 41 — Last Post June 30, 2006 5:46pm by Enzeru

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( Rhapsody )

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I am tired of replying to perfectly legit ehelps in my opinion and by the time I hit send reply, I get a message saying "The request you tried to respond to has been deleted." It just pisses me off.

So I ask that you Support Leaders who vote to delete ehelps think about what you are about to do before you actually do it. Unless the ehelp is the following don't touch that link:
- Spam
- Post was not of a truly serious nature and would be better off in the forums

I feel that the last one that was deleted was perfectly legit and of a serious nature.

Subject of Ehelp: WILL MY MAN GO TO JAIL FOR SAGITORY RPE

Content of Ehelp:IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN HELP BEFOR THEY TAKE THE BLOOD FROM ARE ABY ? CAN WE GET MARRIED

(Edited by Rhapsody at 6:14 pm on June 29, 2006)

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leahbabea

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I disagree I don't think it was an emergency at all, sorry.
I am careful when i press the vote to delete too, and i think most support leaders are, i just didn't see much of the "e" in that post, sorry.

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Roy

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I voted to delete it.

She wants to know if her boyfriend could go to jail for statutory rape. She didn't really give that many details, to her situation. If we asked her, she would not have been able to reply. For example, did someone just find out they had sex, or is there already a court case? Things that would completely change our answers. We couldn't get that information, because she isn't a Support Leader, and couldn't reply.

Thus, to me, it seemed better in the forums.

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leahbabea

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Quote: from Roy at 3:15 pm on June 29, 2006

I voted to delete it.
She wants to know if her boyfriend could go to jail for statutory rape. She didn't really give that many details, to her situation. If we asked her, she would not have been able to reply. For example, did someone just find out they had sex, or is there already a court case? Things that would completely change our answers. We couldn't get that information, because she isn't a Support Leader, and couldn't reply.
Thus, to me, it seemed better in the forums.

couldn't of said it better myself.

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eHelp (Emergency Help) is LiveWire's fast, free service available for users to receive quick help, support, and advice from Support Leaders.

I think I missed the part where is says, unless decided that the user does not deserve the quick help, support and advice from support leaders.

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Quote: from Rhapsody at 6:18 pm on June 29, 2006

eHelp (Emergency Help) is LiveWire's fast, free service available for users to receive quick help, support, and advice from Support Leaders.
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I think I missed the part where is says, unless decided that the user does not deserve the quick help, support and advice from support leaders. �

Signing up also happens to be free. Takes seconds too. David gave us the option to delete eHelps.

Seriously. I'm sorry if I used it, under the criteria that David provided.

(Edited by Roy at 6:27 pm on June 29, 2006)

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Quote: from Roy at 6:20 pm on June 29, 2006

Quote: from Rhapsody at 6:18 pm on June 29, 2006

eHelp (Emergency Help) is LiveWire's fast, free service available for users to receive quick help, support, and advice from Support Leaders.

I think I missed the part where is says, unless decided that the user does not deserve the quick help, support and advice from support leaders.

Signing up also happens to be free. Takes seconds too. David gave up to option to delete eHelps.
Seriously. I'm sorry if I used it, under the criteria that David provided.

Because someone gives you the ability to do something does not mean that you must use it. If you are given a gun does that mean that you must use it??

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4est

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I think it should of stayed, as it was a legitamit question. Until we have anomynous forum posting, things like that need to stay. For all ya'll know, she could of been a known member (despite the typing... most people catch on). She is probably in a panic as the father of her baby, whom she obviously loves as she is willing to get married, is going to jail.

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BTW, Roy and leahbabea, why didn't you also vote to delete the other one, which in my opinion is not that much different from that one.

Subject: getting girls to talk to me

Ehelp conetent: see the problem is they look but dont talk. I am always the gentleman I always talk to them but it feels like they are put off

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Roy

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Quote: from Rhapsody at 6:25 pm on June 29, 2006

Because someone gives you the ability to do something does not mean that you must use it. If you are given a gun does that mean that you must use it??

If the occasion calls for it.

And to me, the occasion called for it.

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4est

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I'd like to add that I've looked in the eHelp library, (Im just a tech) and I've noticed that basically none of them are actually 'emergency.' And emergency would be a situation where someone is in dire need of immediate help, with possible repercussions of injury, whether emotional or physical. I think this is a not-good feature, as it is hardly a Support Leader's responsibility to decide how important one's situation is.

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ixi

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I don't think it's a good idea in the first place. As someone else pointed out, nothing in there is REALLY an emergency.. actually, I agree with all of 4est's post. When a truly bad comes along, and it's obviously spam, a mod can easily take care of it, but I've seen a few get deleted that really were fine. I know members like to use it to remain anonymous, and the purpose of this website is to provide support... support that those members won't get unless they have a way to be unknown. Those types of messages really need to stay.

And this feature isn't good. There's no point to it, and I think it's not being used correctly.

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Personally, I don't think that members are abusing the delete feature. That's the only eHelp I've ever voted to delete. I put serious thought into it too.

However I agree, that if people do abuse it, then one of two things should happen.

1. The person shouldn't be a SL
2. The feature should be removed completely.

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Quote: from ixi at 6:51 pm on June 29, 2006

I don't think it's a good idea in the first place. As someone else pointed out, nothing in there is REALLY an emergency.. actually, I agree with all of 4est's post. When a truly bad comes along, and it's obviously spam, a mod can easily take care of it, but I've seen a few get deleted that really were fine. I know members like to use it to remain anonymous, and the purpose of this website is to provide support... support that those members won't get unless they have a way to be unknown. Those types of messages really need to stay.
And this feature isn't good. There's no point to it, and I think it's not being used correctly.

Emily basically said everything I agree with.

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Quote: from Roy at 7:11 pm on June 29, 2006

Personally, I don't think that members are abusing the delete feature. That's the only eHelp I've ever voted to delete. I put serious thought into it too.
However I agree, that if people do abuse it, then one of two things should happen.
1. The person shouldn't be a SL
2. The feature should be removed completely.

Nah, I don't think the feature should be removed because of a bunch of twats that don't think before they act.

This post targets no one specificially.

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Welcome to My World
They say blood is thicker than water
I say, cum is thicker than blood and water. Do the math.
There's an ice pump where my heart is supposed to be.

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