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Quote: from Roy at 7:11 pm on June 29, 2006

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Personally, I don't think that members are abusing the delete feature. That's the only eHelp I've ever voted to delete. I put serious thought into it too.  

 However I agree, that if people do abuse it, then one of two things should happen.  

 1. The person shouldn't be a SL  
 2. The feature should be removed completely.

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 Nah, I don't think the feature should be removed because of a bunch of twats that don't think before they act.

This post targets no one specificially.

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Quote: from ixi at 6:51 pm on June 29, 2006

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I don't think it's a good idea in the first place.  As someone else pointed out, nothing in there is REALLY an emergency.. actually, I agree with all of 4est's post.  When a truly bad comes along, and it's obviously spam, a mod can easily take care of it, but I've seen a few get deleted that really were fine.  I know members like to use it to remain anonymous, and the purpose of this website is to provide support... support that those members won't get unless they have a way to be unknown.  Those types of messages really need to stay.  

 And this feature isn't good.  There's no point to it, and I think it's not being used correctly.

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Emily basically said everything I agree with.

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And if Emily and Jon agree with me, its like basically the law.

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Rhapsody, I deleted that ehelp, actually.  Some SL's may have voted but I got to it first.  I agree that it and most other ehelps, even the less serious ones, should stay up, because it's a great tool not only for emergencies, but because people can use anonymously. In this case, however, the person had already made a thread about it.

(Edited by DarkLink224 at 7:48 pm on June 29, 2006)

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Quote: from dovelove at 4:13 pm on June 29, 2006

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Quote: from ixi at 6:51 pm on June 29, 2006

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I don't think it's a good idea in the first place.  As someone else pointed out, nothing in there is REALLY an emergency.. actually, I agree with all of 4est's post.  When a truly bad comes along, and it's obviously spam, a mod can easily take care of it, but I've seen a few get deleted that really were fine.  I know members like to use it to remain anonymous, and the purpose of this website is to provide support... support that those members won't get unless they have a way to be unknown.  Those types of messages really need to stay.  

  And this feature isn't good.  There's no point to it, and I think it's not being used correctly.

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 Emily basically said everything I agree with.

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And if Emily and Jon agree with me, its like basically the law.

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Forrest, m'dear.

I'm not Jon. Sorry to disappoint.

And I really just don't like the idea of having SL's delete eHelps. I mean, honestly, I know it's supposed to help the mods out and stuff, but I'm pretty sure every single mod has eHelp enables. I'm positive if there is one that needs to be deleted, then we'll get to it pretty quickly.

Also, if you know that an eHelp isn't serious enough to be in the eHelps, just don't reply to it. Chances are that it will be deleted.

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The eHelp system can also be used for people who would like to remain anonymous. I'm not sure whether or not that was but still. Before Support Leader's vote to delete it, think about it.

People also use it to get better advice without people saying, "lolz i dunno." Support Leaders should be doing their job and instead of deleting something that deserves to be answered, answering it.

I saw that David increased the number of votes needed to 4, which is an improvement, but I still think it should be more. It's very obvious that some people don't know whether or not something is legitimate.

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Quote: from 4est at 7:42 pm on June 29, 2006

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Quote: from dovelove at 4:13 pm on June 29, 2006

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Quote: from ixi at 6:51 pm on June 29, 2006

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I don't think it's a good idea in the first place.  As someone else pointed out, nothing in there is REALLY an emergency.. actually, I agree with all of 4est's post.  When a truly bad comes along, and it's obviously spam, a mod can easily take care of it, but I've seen a few get deleted that really were fine.  I know members like to use it to remain anonymous, and the purpose of this website is to provide support... support that those members won't get unless they have a way to be unknown.  Those types of messages really need to stay.    

   And this feature isn't good.  There's no point to it, and I think it's not being used correctly.

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  Emily basically said everything I agree with.

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 And if Emily and Jon agree with me, its like basically the law.

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Forrest, m'dear.

I'm not Jon. Sorry to disappoint.

And I really just don't like the idea of having SL's delete eHelps. I mean, honestly, I know it's supposed to help the mods out and stuff, but I'm pretty sure every single mod has eHelp enables. I'm positive if there is one that needs to be deleted, then we'll get to it pretty quickly.

Also, if you know that an eHelp isn't serious enough to be in the eHelps, just don't reply to it. Chances are that it will be deleted.

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I know this isn't what the entire topic is about, but I disagree with the deletion of that eHelp. It might not have been an emergency to the people who deleted it, but it was to the person who posted it. She wanted information, and it should have been given to her. Just because it may not be classified as an emergency in your books, doesn't mean that it's not.

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Precisely what I am getting at, what is not an emergency to you maybe to someone else.

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Quote: from shh at 8:06 pm on June 29, 2006

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I know this isn't what the entire topic is about, but I disagree with the deletion of that eHelp. It might not have been an emergency to the people who deleted it, but it was to the person who posted it. She wanted information, and it should have been given to her. Just because it may not be classified as an emergency in your books, doesn't mean that it's not.  

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 Precisely what I am getting at, what is not an emergency to you maybe to someone else.

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Quote: from Rhapsody at 5:12 pm on June 29, 2006

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Quote: from shh at 8:06 pm on June 29, 2006

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I know this isn't what the entire topic is about, but I disagree with the deletion of that eHelp. It might not have been an emergency to the people who deleted it, but it was to the person who posted it. She wanted information, and it should have been given to her. Just because it may not be classified as an emergency in your books, doesn't mean that it's not.  
 

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  Precisely what I am getting at, what is not an emergency to you maybe to someone else.

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It might be a good idea that if someone votes to delete it to be able to disagree. I'm not sure what it's like at the moment, because I have the ability to just delete them.

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Yeah, the voting should be a little more like the one for denying members service.

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Making the Vote to Delete feature like denying service is a waste of unnecessary steps. Why get a bunch of SL's to vote to delete it, then wait for a mod to open their Mod control panel, or inbox, or whatever, then look at a page telling them that a few SL's voted to delete an eHelp, when they could just go to the eHelp, and delete it themselves without going through all that?

(Edited by Roy at 8:23 pm on June 29, 2006)

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Quotes hate me.

Making the Vote to Delete feature like denying service is a waste of unnecessary steps. Why get a bunch of SL's to vote to delete it, then wait for a mod to open their Mod control panel, or inbox, or whatever, then look at a page telling them that a few SL's voted to delete an eHelp, when they could just go to the eHelp, and delete it themselves without going through all that?

(Edited by Roy at 8:23 pm on June 29, 2006)

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Or remove the feature completely and replace it with a [Suggest to Remove] feature, which would be just like reporting a post, only it would be reporting an ehelp and let the mods deal with it from there.

Or this feature should at least require one moderator to vote on it.

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 Or remove the feature completely and replace it with a [Suggest to Remove] feature, which would be just like reporting a post, only it would be reporting an ehelp and let the mods deal with it from there.  

Or this feature should at least require one moderator to vote on it.

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Moderators wouldn't need to vote, they can just delete it.

(Edited by shh at 6:13 pm on June 29, 2006)

--i agree with the idea " suggest for removal" thing, i think it's a great idea.

(Edited by leahbabea at 8:16 pm on June 29, 2006)

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