oh look! what plagerism we have here!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Simpson  
^scroll down.  

oh look! what plagerism we have here!  

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence

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Hah. Fun shit. Funny that I've never looked at those before. I do remember that simpsons episode, though, but I didn't base this off that, if you were wondering. I based this off my own personal experiences and the people that I know. Not very scientific, but it's the best I could do.

Quote: from n0thing at 10:47 am on Oct. 30, 2006

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Depends on your definition of happiness.
The more intelligent people are generally more able to obtain items that will increase their temporary satisfaction with life.
The religion issue I disagree with.  
You're assuming that there is no God, and 'smart' people can see that.
The Founding Fathers of the US were extremely intelligent, and they were also religious.

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I guess I forgot to define happiness. I figured it was pretty straightforward, as opposed to the definition of intelligence. I'd say happiness could be defined as the most common satisfaction with life at any given time. As in: Bob is very happy most of the time, but sad a few days a month. Overall he is happy. Sarah is kinda sad most of the time, but really really happy every once in a while. She would be considered not quite happy.

Quote: from Fluffay Bunnay at 8:56 am on Oct. 30, 2006

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Stupider isn't a word.

I disagree. I'm religious and think of myself as a some-what intelligent person. You must also describe 'stupid' as far as this topic goes. Do you mean that a highly religious person can't get a job as a doctor? Or do you mean a highly religious person can't figure out how to unfreeze a computer?

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No, neither of those. Not at all. Being religious does not limit your intelligence. Moreover being intelligent does not limit your spirituality. I will put it forth like this. I feel that the more intelligent someone is, the more likely they are to critically think about such things, and from this, I believe, one would refute standard concepts of religion. I do not believe these is sufficient evidence to believe most of the things about religion, and that is where I base this off. Do not turn this in to an argument about if there is evidence or not, that is not my point. That was simply the basis for my hypothesis.

Post edited at 3:19 pm on Oct. 30, 2006 by Khadgar

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I suppose I could go along with that.

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So I guess you are arguing that there is correlation but not causation.

I suppose I could go along with that.

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Thats what he SHOULD be argueing for here anyway.....

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Quote: from IamNotBritish at 11:18 pm on Oct. 30, 2006

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So I guess you are arguing that there is correlation but not causation.  

 I suppose I could go along with that.

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Thats what he SHOULD be arguing for here anyway.....

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Well of course. It's the only statement with support and quite logical from an incredibly rough viewpoint - many things that go hand in hand with being religious (ie: poverty) go hand in hand with things that are linked to ignorance (ie: poor education). To argue causation, however, is amusing at best.

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Oh, and yes I did partially mean awareness in my definition of intelligence. One who, say, doesn't know nor care to know about a raging moose stampede in his backyard cannot really be intelligent... can he? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's the smarter one for trying to ignore all the worlds evils, in order to behcome happier, because happiness is truely a worth goal. Maybe not. I'm split on that.

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Ignorance and intelligence are not mutually exclusive, and thus cannot be considered the same thing (especially when the ignorance is the same choice), but for the point that you're making they're smei-interchangeable.


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I guess I forgot to define happiness. I figured it was pretty straightforward, as opposed to the definition of intelligence. I'd say happiness could be defined as the most common satisfaction with life at any given time. As in: Bob is very happy most of the time, but sad a few days a month. Overall he is happy. Sarah is kinda sad most of the time, but really really happy every once in a while. She would be considered not quite happy.

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So I guess you are arguing that there is correlation but not causation.  

I suppose I could go along with that.

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Correlation most definitely. I'm not trying to say one causes the other. It's feasible that one causes the other. It's feasible that a third thing causes both. It'd be pretty reasonable to say that it is entirely coincidental. It'd also make sense if this is way off and completely bogus.

Quote: from n0thing at 9:18 pm on Oct. 30, 2006

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I still disagree.
Unintelligence leads to lower paying jobs which causes stress, that leads to unhappiness.
Although, you could argue that unintelligent people have less to worry about.

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On that point, yeah, it's possible. Also possible is the fact that the more intelligent person with the higher paying job has a more stressful job! As in, which is more stressful: Fast food worker or ER Surgeon? I'd say the latter. I mean, it's really a complicated thing.

Post edited at 5:10 am on Oct. 31, 2006 by Khadgar

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Religion isn't based on intelligence though.  Religion is all beliefs, nothing or very few things in religion is based on scientific fact.

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I don't think that's necessarily relevent to this discussion; Khadgar believes that there is a correlation between religion and intelligence, but not necessarily that low intelligence causes people to be religious or that there is any link between the two.

I still stand by my original point: there are too many exceptions to really call it a rule.

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Religion isn't based on intelligence though.  Religion is all beliefs, nothing or very few things in religion is based on scientific fact.

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False dichotomy.

Also, in many cases, wrong.

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Quote: from Fluffay Bunnay at 8:56 am on Oct. 30, 2006

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Stupider isn't a word.

I disagree. I'm religious and think of myself as a some-what intelligent person. You must also describe 'stupid' as far as this topic goes. Do you mean that a highly religious person can't get a job as a doctor? Or do you mean a highly religious person can't figure out how to unfreeze a computer?

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No, neither of those. Not at all. Being religious does not limit your intelligence. Moreover being intelligent does not limit your spirituality. I will put it forth like this. I feel that the more intelligent someone is, the more likely they are to critically think about such things, and from this, I believe, one would refute standard concepts of religion. I do not believe these is sufficient evidence to believe most of the things about religion, and that is where I base this off. Do not turn this in to an argument about if there is evidence or not, that is not my point. That was simply the basis for my hypothesis.

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I see where you're coming from. However, I must disagree again in saying that the intelligent scientists (if you want to call them that) have just theory's of things. They are guesses and they even doubt themselves. I know what you're saying totally, but I must say you're wrong.

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