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( davjs )
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"You are a selfish bastard David!" I have received a number of messages going off about how incredibly thoughtless and selfish I am to try to make members advertise "my" website. It's true that I take ownership of LiveWire through all the work I do, but I do not even own LiveWire. The Idea Itself I spent last weekend coming up with the idea and figuring out how to make it work. Then I worked all week on the coding as it is rather complex and integrated all over LiveWire. Why I deemed it absolutely vital to ask everyone to refer friends Because you guys don't do it without encouragement. The advertising manager knows, he's seen the numbers, new membership has been declining since February. We have a wonderful thing going here, but you can't place the entire burden of finding new members on me all the time. We must continue to replace members who leave or become inactive to maintain the current level of activity that you are accustomed to on LiveWire. Furthermore, I feel that having more members online at a time creates a better atmosphere. I am inspired when I sign in and see many new topics appearing in Fresh Topics, when I see forums bustling with activity, and the active members list above 200! However, when I sign-in during low-key hours around 3am and see 47 members online my topics don't get replies and I feel a lack of energy on the site that makes me want to sign-out. If those are selfish reasons for trying to get you guys pumped about referring LiveWire to friends then continue sending me your hate mail. The Numbers New Members in February: 616 New Members Last Month: 310 (Many more members signed up, but those are how many we retained and who have become regular posters.) David is greedy People keep telling me that I'm out to make more money by "forcing" people to advertise "my" website which is completely wrong. First, we as a community own LiveWire. Legally speaking I work for LiveWire and for you. So it's OUR website. Second, I don't see a cent more in my pocket whether we make $100 more next month or $200 less. A board of directors, made of LiveWire members like you, decide how much I am paid. That amount remains fixed unless they decide to change it. David Hates America and Democracy "You didn't let us vote on whether we wanted this change! Get out of the country you democracy hating whore!" LiveWire isn't actually a democracy, so sorry to burst your beautiful ideals. Voting for new features isn't a tradition on LiveWire. There have been a few votes for changes that didn't go over well, but in general I think getting every change approved by the majority of whoever was online at the time would really be the pits for development on LiveWire. I would never be able to surprise you, and then I would have to spend 20% of my time writing proposals and campaigning for changes instead of working on them. Post edited at 2:02 am on Nov. 10, 2006 by davjs
------- Currently traveling in France
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Jay JWLH
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You are really letting this get to you, aren't you? At least this clarifies some points.
------- My good people of LiveWire: Dig For Fire (ClAcc) | littlenicky40 (DenServ) | Pan galeharoldishot | CeramicFrog | iloveto | Girl19 HazelEyes (Mod) | Spasty
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ragemore
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Except that instead of making a better environment you are chasing away helpful members, and making people with troubles that need help want to quit, because if they could talk to their friends about it, what would they need LiveWire for? Maybe the reasons for wanting more people are good, but your methods aren't. Encourage by offering point rewards or some other privilege. Don't take away existing privileges and then ask people to earn them back.
------- I happen to think you're pretty dandy.
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1:55 am on Nov. 10, 2006 | Joined: Oct. 2006 | Days Active: 377 Join to learn more about ragemore California, United States | GLBT Ally Female | Posts: 4,675 | Points: 8,811
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gro
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I don't think you're selfish. But I do think when you see a pretty red ball roll across the road, you probably run out in front of traffic. just for fun, here's part of a PM from an SL with over 12k points. hopefully they won't kill me for posting it.
You should use AIM or MSN! I'm starting to wonder if I can really be bothered with David's asshattery. 
when changes annoy more long term members of the community than they create, they are bad. how many real referrals do you think you will actually get out of this? want more active members? great. offer incentives for recruiting. give people $1 of donations for every 100 posts a referral results in. etc. stop being enchanted by every minor shining ball gimmick you can think of. you moderate a forum of teenagers, you should have realized that by now. start putting meaningful effort forth; all the little changes like this you do do very little for the health of livewire. sure, plenty of your changes are flashy and I'm sure take plenty of time to code - but when it comes to it, they are all pretty useless. Post edited at 2:11 am on Nov. 10, 2006 by gro
------- so where do you draw the line and tell yourself no more, is it when your back's against the wall or you're crawlin on the floor?
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1:55 am on Nov. 10, 2006 | Joined: Mar. 2006 | Days Active: 500 Join to learn more about gro Afghanistan | Bisexual | Posts: 3,735 | Points: 8,720
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TiMmMeE
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People who haven't been recently active will find four blinking announcements they have to read. Kind of messy.
------- when we die some sink and some lay but at least I don't see you float away
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tell me again
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That's a re-wording of what you've already said. You still haven't addressed the fact that many of us do not have anyone to refer because we want to remain anonymous, especially the older members who have already referred those close to them. The anonymous feature isn't enough to cover all the past posts, or to prevent friends from recognising the situations that we describe.
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SYSTEM R
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I DON'T THINK SO.
------- one and only jean paul.
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The Dalai Lama
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You get paid to run this site?
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Thuggen
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Its the photo thing I don't want to do. I can find friends, but I don't want to put photos on LW. I just don't want to and I don't think its fair to make me.
------- Written Promises isn't just a LiveWire group anymore! Join The Written Promises Forums! In the words of my LiveWire angel, "God bless" ~girl19~
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2:07 am on Nov. 10, 2006 | Joined: May 2006 | Days Active: 505 Join to learn more about Thuggen Oregon, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 13,116 | Points: 19,676
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