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World peace? |
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 Replies: 57 — Last Post Oct. 29, 2006 2:12pm by ichasecarz
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chuckabanjo
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World Peace is a fantasy. There will always be someone wanting control, someone 'self-righteous', and sadly people willing to follow. Until humans are able to supress their desire for control and power, then no. And even if this happens, (very doubtful_, we'll probably have built robots by then who'll spasm out and declare war on us. Or an animal will advance. Or aliens will come. Or we could have blown ourselves up by then anyway. So no is my answer.
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martin 3840
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So long as there are different opinions and ideas regarding anything, there will be conflict that may lead to wars. Wars (or any conflict) can only exist when one or a group disagrees with another. World peace in possible only when there is one philosophy, obeyed and accepted by everyone, something I'm not sure will be good for humanity. In my opinion, in reality, wars are bound to happen sooner or later, and I would rather have that than a large flock of sheepish humans meekly accepting anything without thinking critically of it. I'm definitely not saying it is good, but looking at society today, is there any other option?
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rimv
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Quote: from martin 3840 at 7:58 pm on Sep. 30, 2006
 So long as there are different opinions and ideas regarding anything, there will be conflict that may lead to wars. Wars (or any conflict) can only exist when one or a group disagrees with another.
Um. No. War are never started over idealogy, but over money and power.
World peace in possible only when there is one philosophy, obeyed and accepted by everyone, something I'm not sure will be good for humanity. In my opinion, in reality, wars are bound to happen sooner or later, and I would rather have that than a large flock of sheepish humans meekly accepting anything without thinking critically of it.
By this logic, the world should be one huge fucking bloody battlefield. We don't need a unified idealogy to end warfare, we merely need a unified stand against what's already becoming an obsolete invention.
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MaryLin
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Define world peace. I'm sure there are people who have a different idea of what it really is.
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Blackadder
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Quote: from rimv at 8:56 pm on Oct. 1, 2006
Quote: from Blackadder at 3:08 pm on Sep. 30, 2006
to all those amoug us that are of a hippie persuausion.
Offer a consise arguement against the following opinion: - "war is necessary"
END OF TRANSMISSION, BOB.
What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Plus, that's catchy. Besides, if you're arguing that war is necessary, the burden of proof lies with you.
While of course marxists would disagree, Human nature seems to thrive and delight in a good long fight. The only difference between war, and other highly competitive outlets is that in one of them your more likely to get hurt, and lets face it, thats what makes it more fun.
not only is "struggle" part of our nature, War also seems to do countless other things, like creating jobs, and helping out econimoc difficualties (oct 1928 anyone?)
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detonation
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World peace kind of defies human nature. It's nice to think about, though.
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rimv
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Quote: from Blackadder at 2:49 pm on Oct. 1, 2006
While of course marxists would disagree, Human nature seems to thrive and delight in a good long fight.
Erm. Pacifists, not marxists is what you're getting at. Nevermind there're countless problems with assuming "human nature" is any kind of easily defined thing.
The only difference between war, and other highly competitive outlets is that in one of them your more likely to get hurt, and lets face it, thats what makes it more fun.
"More fun." Aha. Certainly we should abadon the idea of peace cause you wouldn't enjoy yourself quite as much.
not only is "struggle" part of our nature, War also seems to do countless other things, like creating jobs, and helping out econimoc difficualties (oct 1928 anyone?)
Let's not forget how much warfare helps out our gremmer and slpeling difficualties as well. Again, this returns to my earlier point that war is only used to get money - that's not a justification for it in the least.
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Blackadder
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Erm. Pacifists, not marxists is what you're getting at. Nevermind there're countless problems with assuming "human nature" is any kind of easily defined thing.
No....I didn't mean pacifists, I meant marxists. afterall, Marxists follow the teaching of marx, and just one of those teachings, is the idea that competition is "capitalist indoctrination/propaganda" and people could easily be taught to be co-operative, as part of thier nature.
"More fun." Aha. Certainly we should abadon the idea of peace cause you wouldn't enjoy yourself quite as much.
.....Sarcasm is never really a proper arguement is it?
Let's not forget how much warfare helps out our gremmer and slpeling difficualties as well.
Oh come'on you should know better than this, thats a flawed comparision. whereas, saying that WAR can help struggling economies is almost a fact.
Again, this returns to my earlier point that war is only used to get money - that's not a justification for it in the least.
War has several points to it, money, power, and influence are just 3..... morality, dispute resolution, and rather ironically, "peacekeeping" are another 3 possibilites.
EDIT:- bloody quote tags Post edited at 2:57 am on Oct. 2, 2006 by Blackadder
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schoon
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The fact of the matter is that there will never be 'World Peace', because if there is at least one ruler who believes they can get something by force, then they will try to do so. If one person starts a war, good nations will be dragged into it, because failing to act would be even more disasterous in the long run. I mean, we all know how well the appeasement policy worked for Hitler.
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