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useless..people who dont belive in god
Replies: 195Last Post Oct. 3, 2006 10:06pm by Ice Hand
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There is another fufillment in life. LOVE. If you can find someone you truly love then your life would have been worth living even without G-d. (Though I am not an atheist I know that if I were this would be all I wanted in life.)

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I don't need an idol I don't see to tell me what my life is about, I beleave the universe is God(Not necessarily Panthiest) and from what you stated Humans have just as much power as God. As far as love, goals, and faith.

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Quote: from XXX Kono XXX at 3:52 pm on Sep. 17, 2006

Quote: from charolastra at 12:03 pm on Sep. 17, 2006

Useless... people who make sweeping generalizations about athiests.

ok... lets stop... can we agree to disagree?


No, because you're wrong.

Atheism does not imply uselessness, randomness, lack of agape, purposeless, a lack of understanding of the universe, spiritual emptiness, or the lack of forgiveness (or even a need to be forgiven, which your religion, and not objective reality, instills).

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Quote: from XXX Kono XXX at 8:46 pm on Sep. 17, 2006


unless your living under a rock.. you know about the "big bang theory"
tell my... who created that  
mass of matter in the beginning?

who created god? you got the same problem


one of the basic laws of physics is that matter can't disappear and reappear

you obviously dont know much about physics...ever heard of quantum physics? read a book, its good for you


so the only answer is... a being that can create something from nothing

and "That being can surpass the laws of physics.. because he created him"


so ludicrous i wont bother...
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and what created that spark within you that makes you, you

neurons, that was easy


there is no proven biological system that account for the spirit

right, because it doesnt exist


scientists have search the whole body time and time again... and they never found this " observing spirit" within us

...point?

 

 


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Quote: from XXX Kono XXX at 12:02 pm on Sep. 17, 2006

PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD

-it feels pretty bad to be utterly useless in the universe.  


What the hell are you talking about? Whos useless?


-To only be created by random scientific events

While the event that caused the big bang singularity to occur may have been random, there are very few, if any, truly "random events".


-to never be truly and totally loved by any one

How dare you say this. Espically because this implies that I cannot totally love anyone. You are an ass.


-to never know your set purpose and goal

Your view of the world:
SOME MAGICAL DIETY TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO, WEITHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT
Our view: "oh hey, I really enjoy doing x, I think I'll commit my life to it, because it's what I want!"


-never being able to explain anything at and before the beginning of anything

Your right, because we cannot observe outside of this universe. "Goddit" is a much better alternative.


-to have a gaping black hole in the core of you being... always sucking in your feeling of wholeness and purity

Fuck you, you have no idea what my life is like or what I feel, and I can be moral and not believe in a god, you self-righteous prick.


-to know.. no matter what you do.. you can never be forgiven

This is your fate if you don't believe in god

Not The god ( bible version) but a god.. a supreme being of some kind


Forgiven for what?

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so you people who dont beleive in god, how the hell do you think you were created? How do you think your bodies work so perfectly???


exactly...ofcourse there IS GOOD ALLAH he created the world the humans everything .....GOD IS THERE ALIVE AND WATCHING OVER US ALL

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Quote: from cutemira at 5:01 am on Sep. 18, 2006

so you people who dont beleive in god, how the hell do you think you were created? How do you think your bodies work so perfectly???  

 
exactly...ofcourse there IS GOOD ALLAH he created the world the humans everything .....GOD IS THERE ALIVE AND WATCHING OVER US ALL



Oh wow, with your deep explaination and proven facts of how we were made I have entirely changed my mind.

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Yeah, that's why people made up God in the first place. It's quite fun, really, and very intresting. You probably can't enjoy science as much as I can due to your beliefs. You have to dismiss everything as what God does, you can't know how things really happen. I'd hate to lie to myself. I know I'm pretty pessamistic, but I feel better this way.
Also... how the HELL are we more useless than people who do believe in God???

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Quote: from cutemira at 5:01 am on Sep. 18, 2006

so you people who dont beleive in god, how the hell do you think you were created? How do you think your bodies work so perfectly???  

Changes in allele frequency. Not that you know what that is.

Post edited at 8:36 am on Sep. 18, 2006 by ajm51987

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Quote: from cutemira at 1:01 pm on Sep. 18, 2006

so you people who dont beleive in god, how the hell do you think you were created?

...sex


How do you think your bodies work so perfectly???

they dont, what are you on about?


exactly...ofcourse there IS GOOD ALLAH he created the world the humans everything .....GOD IS THERE ALIVE AND WATCHING OVER US ALL

um no hes not


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Quote: from XXX Kono XXX at 8:02 pm on Sep. 17, 2006

PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD

-it feels pretty bad to be utterly useless in the universe.  


I don't feel useless. I live for humanity.

-To only be created by random scientific events
the random and scientific are redundant adjectives in this sentence.

-to never be truly and totally loved by any one
*shrug*

-to never know your set purpose and goal
I have set myself a purpose and goal. It satisfies me.

-never being able to explain anything at and before the beginning of anything
All that matters from the past is that which helps me control the future - things that occured "before the beginning of anything" do not fall into this catagory .'. I don't care.

-to have a gaping black hole in the core of you being... always sucking in your feeling of wholeness and purity
No... no black holes in here... unless you mean one of those weird microblackholes I keep hearing about, I dunno if they can exist in people...

-to know.. no matter what you do.. you can never be forgiven
I can, I can forgive myself. Others can forgive me. I've been forgiven more times than I can count.


This is your fate if you don't believe in god
I beg to differ.


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useless.. people who assume their ass off o_o

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I agree with the OP.  I don't understand how atheists live with themselves, knowing that no matter what they do, no matter what they say, they won't really make a difference because according to them, everybody dies eventually, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.  No matter what you accomplish, it will all be for nothing.

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Quote: from yankeefan at 9:48 pm on Sep. 18, 2006

I agree with the OP.  I don't understand how atheists live with themselves, knowing that no matter what they do, no matter what they say, they won't really make a difference because according to them, everybody dies eventually, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.  No matter what you accomplish, it will all be for nothing.

not true at all.  Every one of us makes a difference. People accomplish great things.  all of the scientists philosphers and inventors who ever lived, lived for something and were meaningful. And even if we dont get remembered in a few hundered years we make a difference through the lives we touched and influenced or even created.  


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Quote: from yankeefan at 9:48 pm on Sep. 18, 2006

I agree with the OP.  I don't understand how atheists live with themselves, knowing that no matter what they do, no matter what they say, they won't really make a difference because according to them, everybody dies eventually, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.  No matter what you accomplish, it will all be for nothing.
It gives me more incentive to do my best for the people who's lives I can effect...

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