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useless..people who dont belive in god
Replies: 195Last Post Oct. 3, 2006 10:06pm by Ice Hand
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Quote: from XXX Kono XXX at 12:02 pm on Sep. 17, 2006

PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD

-it feels pretty bad to be utterly useless in the universe.  
-To only be created by random scientific events
-to never be truly and totally loved by any one
-to never know your set purpose and goal
-never being able to explain anything at and before the beginning of anything
-to have a gaping black hole in the core of you being... always sucking in your feeling of wholeness and purity
-to know.. no matter what you do.. you can never be forgiven

This is your fate if you don't believe in god

Not The god ( bible version) but a god.. a supreme being of some kind


Better then living a lie, that you tell yourself everyday.


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Better then living a lie, that you tell yourself everyday.

It isn't a lie.  Go to the link in my signature.


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It is good that you didn't say they will go to hell. And they can be loved by someone in their lives. And I am not an athiest.

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Quote: from yankeefan at 3:47 pm on Sep. 23, 2006

Better then living a lie, that you tell yourself everyday.  

It isn't a lie.  Go to the link in my signature.


O come on!! That proves absolutely nothing, hundreds of people have made predictions/comments which end up to be true. There is no difference in predicting someones phone call to predicting someones death.



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Quote: from yankeefan at 6:47 pm on Sep. 23, 2006

Better then living a lie, that you tell yourself everyday.  

It isn't a lie.  Go to the link in my signature.


What he doesn't realize is that he's either ignored, or been beaten in any debate he's been challenged in.

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Quote: from XXX Kono XXX at 3:02 pm on Sep. 17, 2006

PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD

-it feels pretty bad to be utterly useless in the universe.  
-To only be created by random scientific events
-to never be truly and totally loved by any one
-to never know your set purpose and goal
-never being able to explain anything at and before the beginning of anything
-to have a gaping black hole in the core of you being... always sucking in your feeling of wholeness and purity
-to know.. no matter what you do.. you can never be forgiven

This is your fate if you don't believe in god

Not The god ( bible version) but a god.. a supreme being of some kind


People who believe in (a) god:

- will always be looked down upon by anyone who has learned to think for themselves.

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no one said it was easy.

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@yankeefan :

The Bible says that should one of our friends believe in another god we have to kill them. Would you kill a friend of yours, or anyone for that matter, if you knew that they praised another god??


Good people can do good things, bad people can do bad things, but for a good person to do bad things, it takes religion.

Post edited at 7:21 pm on Oct. 1, 2006 by Before


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Quote: from Caseofbaskets at 5:14 pm on Oct. 1, 2006

People who believe in (a) god:

- will always be looked down upon by anyone who has learned to think for themselves.


And suppose someone thought for themselves, and decided there was a god, but not one before known  or conceived of by any human. Is that person not thinking for themselves JUST because their beliefs do not match up with yours?


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Quote: from Before at 7:19 pm on Oct. 1, 2006

 
Good people can do good things, bad people can do bad things, but for a good person to do bad things, it takes religion.


No it takes religion for all those things to happen. To judge anyone for good or bad there must be a standard something from which to judge. What is a good person without religion or what is a bad person? What is "good" and what is "bad" without religion? Without a God or gods there is no morality i.e. good or bad.

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Quote: from Captpalm at 9:01 pm on Oct. 1, 2006

Quote: from Before at 7:19 pm on Oct. 1, 2006

   
 Good people can do good things, bad people can do bad things, but for a good person to do bad things, it takes religion.  

 


No it takes religion for all those things to happen. To judge anyone for good or bad there must be a standard something from which to judge. What is a good person without religion or what is a bad person? What is "good" and what is "bad" without religion?
Without a God or gods there is no morality i.e. good or bad.



Exactly, how would the Christians in roman times know who to burn alive without God's just direction?

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No it takes religion for all those things to happen. To judge anyone for good or bad there must be a standard something from which to judge. What is a good person without religion or what is a bad person? What is "good" and what is "bad" without religion? Without a God or gods there is no morality i.e. good or bad.

No. Pain, Anger, Discomfort, Sadness are all bad. Bringing any of these into the world is therefore also bad. Joy, Happiness, Comfort are all good. Bringing these things to the world is therefore also good.


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^how do you know they're bad/good? how can you make that decision? what is your standard?

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Quote: from Captpalm at 11:18 pm on Oct. 1, 2006

^how do you know they're bad/good? how can you make that decision? what is your standard?

My Brain perceives them as bad/good, and based on what I've seen and been told, other people's brains feel the same. My perceptions of my environment determine what is desirable and non-desirable. I desire what my brain perceives as good, and I desire that for other's also, because I feel it is good to bring good to others.

It's all very basic really. Not all of us need magicall god-fairies to determin right and wrong.


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Quote: from XXX Kono XXX at 12:02 pm on Sep. 17, 2006

PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD

-it feels pretty bad to be utterly useless in the universe.  
-To only be created by random scientific events
-to never be truly and totally loved by any one
-to never know your set purpose and goal
-never being able to explain anything at and before the beginning of anything
-to have a gaping black hole in the core of you being... always sucking in your feeling of wholeness and purity
-to know.. no matter what you do.. you can never be forgiven


Better to have all these things then to purposly lie to yourself to try and make yourself feel better.

And in any case most of them aren't true.

I may be useless in the big scheme of things but why do I care? The purpose of my life is to have fun.

Being created by random scientic events might hurt more if I didn't know that all religious people were too. Plus I get to laugh at them for their stupid beliefs.

Not loved? Bullshit.

I already know my goal. My goal is to have as much fun as possible.

Better no answers than false answers.

Black hole? Duuuude. The acid is over ------> there.

Forgiven? The only person I need forgiveness from is myself. If I'm happy with who I am who the fuck else do I need to please?

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