You'd be right in saying that "Macs never crash" is a lie; my sister's MacBook has crashed twice since she got it.  (Although, it's tough to not be a little forgiving with that, as they're in the middle of a processor transition.)  The iMac I'm on right now has the occassional lockup, and I'm sure I've had to completely turn it off a few times.  

To tell you the truth, the main reason I prefer OS X to Windows is the feel.  I find OS X to respond more on command than Windows in general, and most of all when it comes to errant programs.  Of course iPhoto has frozen before.  But when it does it either quits automatically and reopens, or I force quit it with cmd alt esc.  If on the off chance that doesn't work, I end the process with the Activity Monitor.  

The Windows Task Manager, on the other hand, has taken a great hatred towards me for some unknown reason.  At times it refuses to come up at all when I call its sweet name with Ctrl Alt Delete.  (That's usually when I lose all control of my PC, which very rarely [if ever?] happens with the Mac).  Then Windows'll tease me for 10 minutes with a movable mouse making it think like I will eventually get control of my computer again.  I try Ctrl+Alt+Delete again.  Nothing.  I curse at it.  Nothing.  Then another 10 minutes passes and it either opens 900 instances of Task Manager or it just sits there, at which point I shut it off.  The trouble with Windows on my own computer is Windows Explorer, which has to restart itself at least once a day (and I'm not exaggerating).  The taskbar will disappear as will all of the icons on my desktop for 20 seconds.  It's not the biggest issue in the world, but it annoys me nonetheless.

I'm getting tired of typing, but I'd also say that I like using Macs more because of the whizzbang effects.  It may not matter to some hardcore computer g33ks, but I think using Aqua is a lot of fun.

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Windows has a bad rep for crashing because of the 9x kernels (95, 98, ME, especially ME). XP is pretty stable. Vista.... well Vista has other issues (*cough* user rights management *cough*).

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Lockups are caused by all sorts of things too- so it's hard to say what's crashing them.
My new notebook has XP home (and recently, an installation of Gentoo Linux using a whole lot of pretty new features like XGL).
XP only crashed once, and I can definitely say it was caused by a severely corrupt SD card I put in.

Windows has a bad rep for crashing because of the 9x kernels (95, 98, ME, especially ME). XP is pretty stable. Vista.... well Vista has other issues (*cough* user rights management *cough*).

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oooo xgl, eh?  Hows that going?  I was considering setting that up but I really dont care for eye candy much.  Just regular ol' fluxbox for me.

but on a good note, Modular X has been maked stable.

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Quote: from Stormblazer at 4:07 pm on July 6, 2006

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Lockups are caused by all sorts of things too- so it's hard to say what's crashing them.  
 My new notebook has XP home (and recently, an installation of Gentoo Linux using a whole lot of pretty new features like XGL).  
 XP only crashed once, and I can definitely say it was caused by a severely corrupt SD card I put in.  

 Windows has a bad rep for crashing because of the 9x kernels (95, 98, ME, especially ME). XP is pretty stable. Vista.... well Vista has other issues (*cough* user rights management *cough*).

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oooo xgl, eh?  Hows that going?  I was considering setting that up but I really dont care for eye candy much.  Just regular ol' fluxbox for me.

but on a good note, Modular X has been maked stable.

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Xgl's pretty fun- it doesn't detract performance much given that it mainly uses the GPU. Mainly, this install was done to see how much effect a dual core would have.

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People are saying that your need to use mac hardware only with macs.  One of my friends is running G4ppc with almost all standard PC parts. (CDROM, RAM, Vid card.....)

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(Edited by ranman at 7:05 pm on July 21, 2006)

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On I friends machine running OS9 crash was about the only thing it did well.

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OS 9 is really quite irrelevant these days. I'm not sure what it has to do with anything.

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Basically, I have my own theories, but before I you what they are, I am interested to know why you bought your Mac in the first place? What was the real reason?

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Usability. It (mostly) just works right out of the box. UI consistency as well (which is my biggest gripe with the various Linux flavors - including Ubuntu. Everybody and their mother has a "toolkit" and two dozen completely different UI conventions they adhere to).

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What you've described are application crashes, not system crashes. You do realize that you can force quit a hung application, right? You don't need to restart. If anyone here has been telling you that Mac applications never crash then they're either morons or they are lying.

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On I friends machine running OS9 crash was about the only thing it did well.

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OS 9 is really quite irrelevant these days. I'm not sure what it has to do with anything.

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Basically, I have my own theories, but before I you what they are, I am interested to know why you bought your Mac in the first place? What was the real reason?

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Usability. It (mostly) just works right out of the box. UI consistency as well (which is my biggest gripe with the various Linux flavors - including Ubuntu. Everybody and their mother has a "toolkit" and two dozen completely different UI conventions they adhere to).

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No, i know the difference between an application lockup and the whole system, just trust me, i know how to kills dead apps and its wasn't happening.

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You just compared a used product sold over ebay to a retail version of a product.  What a dumbfuck.  I give the ol' comparing appples and oranges analogy, but I dont think you would comprehend.

 

By the by:

Xp Home

Xp MCE

Xp Pro

The first two being cheaper than os x, the third being about $10 more.  

(Edited by mephisto mortis at 11:53 pm on July 4, 2006)

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mephisto, you're comparing an OEM copy of windows to a retail copy of OS X :P although they're both full legal licenses for each OS, wouldn't it be more fair to compare the retail version of XP home/pro/mce with OS x?

i use my $250 ibook that i purchased off of ebay for its 3 hr battery life, compact size, light weight, and case customizability (it's going to be a green ibook soon) . sure its running 10.2, but it can run office.... yet so can anything nowadays. by the way i'm typing this on my xp home laptop that hasnt crashed in a few weeks! hoorah!

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mephisto, you're comparing an OEM copy of windows to a retail copy of OS X :P although they're both full legal licenses for each OS, wouldn't it be more fair to compare the retail version of XP home/pro/mce with OS x?

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Well our friend Cingulair was comparing ebay to OEM/retail (didnt really specify), so this only seems fair, no?

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The reason OS X is only $129 is because it's really only for upgrades since you "Can't" use OS X on a non Apple computer.

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How does that justify the price?  If you upgrade an install, you use parts of the preexisting OS.  Meaning, you're paying $129 for using less of the install dvd than you would on a fresh install.

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