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Question about breeding.
Replies: 37Last Post Mar. 2 11:05am by Silencedx
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tufti


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Quote: from JennyColada at 9:17 pm on Feb. 27, 2008

Quote: from tufti at 11:54 am on Feb. 27, 2008

For every mutt you bring into the world thats a home lost for a poundie.

That is not quite true. You make it seem as though everyone who wants to bring a dog home is automatically looking to the pound, which is completely false. Many people, for whatever reason, have decided that they do not want to adopt a dog from a pound. Dogs are not all equal, and selling 5 dogs does not mean that those exact five dogs in a pound will die or never be adopted. It is likely that the dogs in the pound will have not been adopted or will have been adopted anyway. Some people will only choose to adopt dogs. Chances are, the people looking to buy a purebred (either a "purebred mut" or a single breed) are not the same types of people that are willing to adopt some random dog from the pound.

As long as there is irresponsible breeding there will be pound dogs, a good breeder will always take back every dog they bred so I'm certain that most dogs in rescue are the result of some bad breeders. Yes, opinions do need to change on adopting pound dogs but but without back yard breeders and puppy farms there would be masses of homes for poundies. There are loads of pedigree dogs in pounds and rescue, all 15 of my dogs are pedigree or first cross and all came from rescue.


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Quote: from kendall716 at 9:33 pm on Feb. 27, 2008

Oh well. I already got my intended answer for this forum, anyhow. To those of you who actually provided me with the information I was seeking about health problems, rather than personally attacking me for being a breeder, Thank you.  


Well im just sorry that you can't take on good advice or see the bigger picture. I'm also sad that you needed to go on a teen forum to ask about your dogs health rather than doing some proper research or speaking to a good vet.


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I asked a question for future reference. As I have stated, my puppy won't reach sexual maturity for a long time anyway.

Who says I wouldn't take back a puppy?
I think you all are putting words in my mouth now.

Your judgements are not fair. I'm an animal lover, my question stemmed from concerned for something that is six months in the future. I'm starting my research early.

The irresponsible thing to do would be just let things occur naturally.

Post edited at 1:50 pm on Feb. 27, 2008 by kendall716

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Wasn't putting words in your mouth at all, i was talking about the link between irresponsible breeding and the number of dogs destroyed each year not about you in particular.

The responsible thing to do would to know for a fact that you would not be having any crossbreed puppies at all. It is simple enough to do, thats why there has never be any rottieXbedlington (or rottlingtons as we seem to be in the business of giving stupid names to mutts)puppies in my house.

You actually stated in your first post "what are the negatives" and I believe that I gave you them  


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Forgive my miswording,then. I would see to it that the dogs remained separated. However, I can't guarantee that while I am at school my parents might give them access to each other. I'm probably just being paranoid, chances are it won't happen.

But should it happen, I wanted to know what health issues the accident would entail. I only want to breed the most healthy puppies.

By "What are the Negatives" I was speaking medically. I wasn't speaking about the fact that I breed in general.

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I have a few health risks, not just to the "Chorkies" but small breeds in general, just in case.

For the mom - small dogs, especially Chis and Yorkies, often have whelping difficulties . . . so very possibly C-Section. Imagine when you have on or two pups already born, and then the mom has to go for a c-section - does she know how to keep them warm, but not too warm, how to feed them without the mom?

Eclampsia or milk fever also sets in easily with smaller breeds. It is caused when the mom gives too much of her own nutrients to the pups through her milk. A mom can die within a couple hours of the first symptoms. Small mom dogs need to be watched for signs of eclampsia constantly from day one of nursing until the pups are weaned.

In regards to this mix and the puppies produced.

Both breeds have to contend with heart murmurs, slipping knees, hydrocephalus, epilepsy, syringomyelia, eye problems (PRA), hypoglycemia and probably allergies.

Since both breeds have these things, the pups produced can come up with these problems as well.

Perhaps a look at this Chihuahua breeder page, which shows a mom giving birth, and losing two out of five pups, might give her an idea what she is thinking of getting into.

http://blueboychihuahuas.com/breeding/whelping/sadie/birtho falitter.html

I believe an inexperienced breeder would freak when a mom dog refused to take the sac off, chew the cord, clean or even feed her pups for the first couple hours like the dog in these photos.


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Thank you for the information.
I knew of those health risks already,though.
I've been breeding various kinds of animals, and they are all pretty methodical. You can google it and check if you want to.

Sugar gliders,
Kittens,
One litter of dogs before.

I'm not inexperienced. I know how to handle a birthing situation.

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Oh..my..god.  I hate fucktards trying to breed.

First off, any dog registered with the Continental Kennel Club comes from an irresponsible breeder.  I registered my mutt as a Chow Chow and a Beagle with them, seperately.  According to them, a medium-sized orange, short-eared, long-tailed, short-coated MUTT resembles a Chow Chow..and a Beagle, obviously.

Second off, TWO champions in the bloodline doesn't mean SHIT.  Nor does the price of the dog.  If you're too ignorant to realize that, you and your mom shouldn't be breeding dogs in the first place.  You say the Yorkie is particularly long.  Uh, have you read the breed standard at all?

"The body is neat, compact and well proportioned."
"The back is rather short"
http://www.akc.org/breeds/yorkshire_terrier/index.cfm

Right about now, I'm thinking that holocaust post on the religions forum would be quite good =]

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