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Quote: from kendall716 at 2:43 pm on Feb. 26, 2008

Bitsi's purebred litters will be worth 2,000 a peice, and I highly doubt someone will pay that much for a dog they want to send to the pound.

Not that this much adds to the topic of discussion (but I had to add this): I've seen dogs "worth" more than that sitting in the pounds. Some of them have even been up for adoption for months (the pound by me is a no-kill facility).

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Quote: from Behringer at 8:37 pm on Feb. 26, 2008

How old are both the Chihuaha "Puppy" And the Yorkie?

They wouldn't mate anytime soon. My puppy is very very small. The yorkie is three years old.

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Quote: from DancinOnTheMoon at 8:39 pm on Feb. 26, 2008

I don't have anything against responsibly breeding healthy, purebred dogs. There will always be people who want them and good breeding is essential for the betterment of the breed.

What I do have a problem with is people who breed these "designer" dogs and then sell them for ridiculous amounts of money. Tufti didn't mean that your pups would end up in shelters, she meant that by selling these puppies who are really just mutts, you're possibly denying a shelter dog a home. Please please please...do what you can to prevent them from mating.  


No, I'm not going to see accidental "Chorkies" as purebreds. If you got that from what I said, that would be wrong. The only dogs I would sell at the full price would be a  100% blood yorkie.

If they did accidently mate, I would still sell the puppies, but at a significantly more affordable price. Probably around 300 dollars or so.

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Quote: from JennyColada at 9:34 pm on Feb. 26, 2008

Quote: from kendall716 at 2:43 pm on Feb. 26, 2008

Bitsi's purebred litters will be worth 2,000 a peice, and I highly doubt someone will pay that much for a dog they want to send to the pound.

Not that this much adds to the topic of discussion (but I had to add this): I've seen dogs "worth" more than that sitting in the pounds. Some of them have even been up for adoption for months (the pound by me is a no-kill facility).

One thing I would like to clarify is that I am picky when I give my babies to new homes. Both my parents and I would want to interview with the families and make sure they are planning on a lifetime pet.

The last thing I want is one of bitsi's babies to end up in a pound, for that reason I won't be irresponsible about it.  

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$300 is still a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a mutt. Sorry, that's just the way I feel about it. Perhaps I should have said that I hate it when people sell designer dogs. Period.

I'm not attacking you or anything, I'm just stating my views on the subject. I know you don't want to intentionally mate them.

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Quote: from DancinOnTheMoon at 5:43 am on Feb. 27, 2008

$300 is still a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a mutt. Sorry, that's just the way I feel about it. Perhaps I should have said that I hate it when people sell designer dogs. Period.  

I'm not attacking you or anything, I'm just stating my views on the subject. I know you don't want to intentionally mate them.


Your views are fine for you. I respect them. I looked up the price range for, "Chorkies." and saw that it was between 400 and 500 dollars, I brought that price down a little bit.

(By the way, they aren't noted by AKC or CKC yet, but they are slowly becoming their own breed.)

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Dancinonthemoon has it spot on, that amount of money for a cross is stupid. If you are any sort of owner it would be completely in your power to stop them breeding. I have 3 entire dogs and 2 entire bitches and I have never had an accidental litter, all due to good management.

Please don't tell me to calm down, when you go to a pound and have to decide which dogs you take to rescue and which you leave on death row knowing full well that in an hour their time will be up and they will be destroyed in kennels then you can tell me to stop being irate. For every mutt you bring into the world thats a home lost for a poundie. You can't guarantee that your dogs won't end up in the pound, what happens 10 years down the line when the owner dies or has a new baby?

yorkie/chihuahua crosses (mutts) are not "slowly becoming their own breed". These are two breeds that have taken hundreds of years to create in their own right, their crosses are many generations off producing a new breed and a doubt that they ever will.

Its my opinion that only the BEST dogs should be bred and only by the BEST and most experienced owners. I own working dogs, if I found one that genetically an absolute total superstar then I would consider breeding but even though my dogs do well, I have yet to see that x factor. In the past people would only breed for that x factor and the sole reason why dogs today are so overpopulated and are so riddled with genetic disease is that people see breeding their dog as a God given right.


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I honestly read the first sentence of everything you typed. Why? Because all of it is completely irrelevent and off topic.  I merely asked if their would be health issues if my yorkie and chihuahua accidentally bred.

It is a yes or no question. There is no need to get into the ethics of breeding. I highly doubt they even will get to each other. It's an "if" thing.

I'm not an irresponsible breeder. Thanks for your novel post, I'm sorry that I didn't have the will to read more than ten words of it.

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Well other than your obvious lack of education with regards to breeding, and I'm sorry but you have made no relevant points to prove otherwise...

Do you even have your dogs titled? "Champion Lines" does not mean shit, you can find that in a classified ad, it's merely a way to scam more money from naive buyers.

The Chihuaha has only had it's second round of vaccinations if I am not mistaken. There very well may be a chance that it sires unhealthy puppies in that you will not be able to get the proper health testing done at such a young age.

You also have not mentioned the estrus cycle, if you were indeed such a great breeder, you would have knowledge when your female was ovulating and therefore you should have plenty of warning if your female was at risk of getting pregnant.

Yes I do realize you spoke of your parents with regards to this, but if you plan on taking on the responsibility of breeding everyone in that household should be educated as well.


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Why the hell are we talking about my breeding tactics? I may or may not breed my chihuahua in the future. I will be breeding my Yorkie, though.

Get over it.

I'm not worried about my chihuahua being a problem anytime soon because he is only a puppy. I just wanted to know for future reference.

It was a yes or no question. Try to be helpful next time.

Yes, there are health problems.
No, there are not health problems.
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I love how you refuse to read posts which go against what you want, because of your selfish desire to breed. You're interested in breeding, and you posted about it. Someone posted their views on breeding (hmm, what's that? Discussion?) but lo, it was the other side, which you don't want to hear. If you were responsible, you'd want to take in other people's views. You're clearly not a responsible, reputable breeder, otherwise you wouldn't have asked such a question.
It disgusts me that there are dogs waiting for homes - and being killed every day - because of people like you, who breed for, really, absolutely no good reason, and those who buy puppies off you could have got a dog from the pound.

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As I stated, you will not be able to know if there will be health problems until you get the proper testing done.

And just by asking by stirctly if the two breeds will create issues with being bred pretty well proves you shouldn't be contributing to the over population of the dog world. I bet they're both proudly known as "Tea Cup" Yorkies and Chis too


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Quote: from tufti at 11:54 am on Feb. 27, 2008

For every mutt you bring into the world thats a home lost for a poundie.

That is not quite true. You make it seem as though everyone who wants to bring a dog home is automatically looking to the pound, which is completely false. Many people, for whatever reason, have decided that they do not want to adopt a dog from a pound. Dogs are not all equal, and selling 5 dogs does not mean that those exact five dogs in a pound will die or never be adopted. It is likely that the dogs in the pound will have not been adopted or will have been adopted anyway. Some people will only choose to adopt dogs. Chances are, the people looking to buy a purebred (either a "purebred mut" or a single breed) are not the same types of people that are willing to adopt some random dog from the pound.

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Quote: from Day Old Blues at 4:10 pm on Feb. 27, 2008

I love how you refuse to read posts which go against what you want, because of your selfish desire to breed. You're interested in breeding, and you posted about it. Someone posted their views on breeding (hmm, what's that? Discussion?) but lo, it was the other side, which you don't want to hear. If you were responsible, you'd want to take in other people's views. You're clearly not a responsible, reputable breeder, otherwise you wouldn't have asked such a question.
It disgusts me that there are dogs waiting for homes - and being killed every day - because of people like you, who breed for, really, absolutely no good reason, and those who buy puppies off you could have got a dog from the pound.

I honestly feel this needs to be said twice.
Very well put!


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Oh well. I already got my intended answer for this forum, anyhow. To those of you who actually provided me with the information I was seeking about health problems, rather than personally attacking me for being a breeder, Thank you.



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