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( CmplctedCheerGrl )
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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:29 pm on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 10:27 am on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Loud Dog at 2:56 am on Mar. 23, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 9:23 pm on Mar. 22, 2008
in case you do end up having babies because of an accident during "fun sex" then you can make it easier.
You do know what contraceptives are, right...?
Yes, but sometimes those fail. 
When used correctly, the very worst contraceptives only have a 10% chance of failing. The easiest and most common contraceptives (hormonal birth control) have a 1-3% chance of failing. Contraceptives used in conjunction (condom + pill; spermicide + shot; etc.) have a less than 1% chance of failing. So, really "sometimes those fail" is a horrible argument. 
1% is still 1 girl out of a 100. Think of the girls at school... how many of them are pregnant? Very few. Were they using protection? Probably not, but hey, innocent until proven guilty, right?
------- It's amazing what you'll find when you just open your eyes. Valerie Isabelle born October 2007. Baby #2 due December 2009.
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exceedinglyrare
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That's not how many times any given method of contraception actually fails; it's the chance it has of failing. Frankly, 1% is a pretty small chance, and when used in conjunction with other methods, the chances go down to the point where they're not even worth mentioning.
------- Let yourself be enchanted, You just might break through To ever ever after
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Loud Dog
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Quote: from CmplctedCheerGrl at 10:28 pm on Mar. 24, 2008
1% is still 1 girl out of a 100. Think of the girls at school... how many of them are pregnant? Very few. Were they using protection? Probably not, but hey, innocent until proven guilty, right?
You don't understand how statistics work, do you.
------- Drive? You want us... to drive you? Non, my friend. We are bloggeurs.
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5:54 am on Mar. 25, 2008 | Joined: Jan. 2006 | Days Active: 520 Join to learn more about Loud Dog England, United Kingdom | Straight Male | Posts: 6,358 | Points: 11,516
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Catalyst11
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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:29 pm on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 10:27 am on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Loud Dog at 2:56 am on Mar. 23, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 9:23 pm on Mar. 22, 2008
in case you do end up having babies because of an accident during "fun sex" then you can make it easier.
You do know what contraceptives are, right...?
Yes, but sometimes those fail. 
When used correctly, the very worst contraceptives only have a 10% chance of failing. The easiest and most common contraceptives (hormonal birth control) have a 1-3% chance of failing. Contraceptives used in conjunction (condom + pill; spermicide + shot; etc.) have a less than 1% chance of failing. So, really "sometimes those fail" is a horrible argument. 
I know what you are talking about, but I'm just against it to each is own, and if you feel the way you feel, I could care less, I have my opinion.
------- People are inherently stupid. Under the right circumstances they will believe anything.
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1:59 pm on Mar. 25, 2008 | Joined: Nov. 2007 | Days Active: 266 Join to learn more about Catalyst11 North Carolina, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 4,392 | Points: 7,311
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exceedinglyrare
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Quote: from Catalyst11 at 4:59 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:29 pm on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 10:27 am on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Loud Dog at 2:56 am on Mar. 23, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 9:23 pm on Mar. 22, 2008
in case you do end up having babies because of an accident during "fun sex" then you can make it easier.
You do know what contraceptives are, right...?
Yes, but sometimes those fail. 
When used correctly, the very worst contraceptives only have a 10% chance of failing. The easiest and most common contraceptives (hormonal birth control) have a 1-3% chance of failing. Contraceptives used in conjunction (condom + pill; spermicide + shot; etc.) have a less than 1% chance of failing. So, really "sometimes those fail" is a horrible argument. 
I know what you are talking about, but I'm just against it to each is own, and if you feel the way you feel, I could care less, I have my opinion. 
A fair way of saying, "Because I can't back up my argument."
------- Let yourself be enchanted, You just might break through To ever ever after
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Loud Dog
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I'm pretty sure he didn't even supply an opinion. I mean, vague platitudes, yeah. Lots. But nothing containing enough thought to actually be considered an opinion.
------- Drive? You want us... to drive you? Non, my friend. We are bloggeurs.
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5:34 pm on Mar. 25, 2008 | Joined: Jan. 2006 | Days Active: 520 Join to learn more about Loud Dog England, United Kingdom | Straight Male | Posts: 6,358 | Points: 11,516
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Catalyst11
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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 4:13 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 4:59 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:29 pm on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 10:27 am on Mar. 24, 2008
Quote: from Loud Dog at 2:56 am on Mar. 23, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 9:23 pm on Mar. 22, 2008
in case you do end up having babies because of an accident during "fun sex" then you can make it easier.
You do know what contraceptives are, right...?
Yes, but sometimes those fail. 
When used correctly, the very worst contraceptives only have a 10% chance of failing. The easiest and most common contraceptives (hormonal birth control) have a 1-3% chance of failing. Contraceptives used in conjunction (condom + pill; spermicide + shot; etc.) have a less than 1% chance of failing. So, really "sometimes those fail" is a horrible argument. 
I know what you are talking about, but I'm just against it to each is own, and if you feel the way you feel, I could care less, I have my opinion. 
A fair way of saying, "Because I can't back up my argument." 
Actually I'm saying that you can have your beliefs and I won't hold those against you, but since you made this argument between the two of us heated, you took it in a different way, I really could care less what you think, I am being completely honest with you. But if you can't see that you are very thickheaded.
------- People are inherently stupid. Under the right circumstances they will believe anything.
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10:20 pm on Mar. 25, 2008 | Joined: Nov. 2007 | Days Active: 266 Join to learn more about Catalyst11 North Carolina, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 4,392 | Points: 7,311
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Actually I'm saying that you can have your beliefs and I won't hold those against you, but since you made this argument between the two of us heated, you took it in a different way, I really could care less what you think, I am being completely honest with you. But if you can't see that you are very thickheaded. 
Oh, I don't think anyone accused you of being dishonest. Just of being a moron.
------- so where do you draw the line and tell yourself no more, is it when your back's against the wall or you're crawlin on the floor?
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Catalyst11
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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:16 am on Mar. 26, 2008
Quote: from Catalyst11 at 1:20 am on Mar. 26, 2008
Actually I'm saying that you can have your beliefs and I won't hold those against you, but since you made this argument between the two of us heated, you took it in a different way, I really could care less what you think, I am being completely honest with you. But if you can't see that you are very thickheaded.
Who made it heated? I just explained why "sometimes they fail" is a horrible argument; by refusing to respond to that, you're making it seem very blatantly that you don't really have anything to back up your pseudo-opinions and are therefore running away from a good debate. I never called you dishonest, but I am calling you out on not having done your research or knowing what you're talking about. 
OK so then you're calling me out. Maybe you're right, I didn't do any research, but you just named the statistics, and therefore there really isn't anything for me to tell you to debate your point. So, yes I am leaving the debate, because I don't see what more research I can do. I'm sorry for calling you thickheaded.
------- People are inherently stupid. Under the right circumstances they will believe anything.
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exceedinglyrare
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Research isn't a bad thing, you know...I suggest doing some to back up your opinions, so that this doesn't happen again.
------- Let yourself be enchanted, You just might break through To ever ever after
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mountain hare
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Loud:
Operative word: Theoretically. Not the same as in practice. You know this. 
So if Pill X has a failure rate of 1%, in theory 1 out of 100 women will get pregnant while on the pill. But in real life, none of them will get pregnant? Theory may not always be completely applicable to real life, and there will be some variation, random error, human error, etc,, but I fail to understand how a method with a quantified failure rate will not fail in a similar manner in real life. The fact that said failure rate was quantified to begin with indicates that said method failed in the first place.
And aside from that, "Morons might fuck it up" doesn't strike me as a valid argument for not having sex outside of marriage. 
Not just morons. Even perfectly intelligent people can fuck things up, especially if they are having sex regularly. Humans are not infalliable.
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