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Who owns the fish?
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Replies: 21Last Post Feb. 23, 2008 11:20pm by Bobman21
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norock


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no, one needn't think, one need only solve the problem logically.

are you serious?

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Quote: from norock at 3:07 pm on Feb. 22, 2008

no, one needn't think, one need only solve the problem logically.

are you serious?


how different would your awnser be if the question was "who owns the crododile" instead of "who owns the fish"


there you are, thats a big clue to the true awnser.

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norock


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it would be no different, as the fish is not included in the criteria, and is left to be an unknown, you could replace fish with ANY animal and it would still follow.

the proof is a matter of EXCLUSION rather than inclusion.

Have you tried to solve it? I solved it in elementary school and just did it again in like 15 minutes before [disregarding any urge i had to make assumptions based on my prior knowledge].

by the way, i messaged you about one of your other topics

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if your awnser would not change, then how can it be known the germans does in fact own the fish?

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norock


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Of course, it could be ANYTHING that the german owns.  
Sure, one must have more information about the criteria in order to be SURE the german owns the fish, but we are sure of two things:

1) the german does not own the other 4 animals
2) the question states that there are 5 houses, 5 men, 5 colors, 5 drinks, 5 smokes, and 5 animals [more exclusively, they all own different types of animals.

the correct answer would have to be something like:
Given the fact that we are not sure whether or not the five animals that the five men own are, in fact, a horse, a bird, a cat, a dog, and a fish [since fish is not implicitly stated in the criteria] we can only assume that because of the nature of the question "Who owns the fish?", that the German --owning none of the other animals, must then own the fish.

however, it is stated that there are 5 animals, 4 which are accounted for in the criteria, leaving one to be unknown. the question asks who owns the fish, so one can logically assume that the question would not be asked if the fish were not --in fact-- the fifth and final animal.

^ that would be my answer if i were given this question on an exam or if i were asked it by a professor or other learned colleague.

Post edited at 8:06 am on Feb. 22, 2008 by norock

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thats an urban legend that he believed that 98% of the worlds population couldnt solve it.

All you have to do is work it out logically, maybe draw a table and put all the information in and work it out from there.


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It's POSSIBLE that there's another solution to the problem, but not likely. My solution has it as the German...

1st House: Norweigan, Yellow, Water, Dunhill, Cats
2nd House: Dane, Blue, Tea, Blends, Horses
3rd House: Brit, Red, Milk, Pall Mall, Birds
4th House: German, Green, Coffee, Prince, Fish
5th House: Swede, White, Beer, Blue Master, Dogs

fits the criteria, anyway

Post edited at 11:27 pm on Feb. 23, 2008 by Bobman21

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